Dokko Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. Have Barton take him out when we play City next season as well, something like that Parker tackle on Joe Cole couple of seasons ago. Spin motherfucker, spin. I could live with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 less than 20 games in 2 years.. not sure what all the stress is about. Once all the ownership stuff is sorted out, we should be fine - and have cash to spend on better players than A f'ing smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 "Now listen here. I'm rich enough to pay your wages for the next 2 years of your life AND sign someone better than you to take your place. So you've got a choice. You either decide if you want to stay or go in the next 3 seconds or I'll make the fucking decision for you. You'll train with the youth's every day for the rest of your contract and I can guarantee you'll not kick a ball in anger for the next 2 years. Now what's it to be?" M. Ashley to Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I want him to stay, he's a fantastic footballer. Couldn't give a s*** whether he f****** hates the club or not tbh. This. What the hell has Owen actually done wrong? He's not said he hates the club, he's not said he wants away, he hasn't refused to play, when he's played for us, he's scored goals. It's actually quite ironic because people who say 'don't believe everything you read in the paper' have been influenced by what the papers have said about what Owen wants, he's never actually said himself 'I want to go', it's been the papers saying he wants to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eyeball_tickler Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I want him to stay, he's a fantastic footballer. Couldn't give a s*** whether he f****** hates the club or not tbh. This. What the hell has Owen actually done wrong? He's not said he hates the club, he's not said he wants away, he hasn't refused to play, when he's played for us, he's scored goals. It's actually quite ironic because people who say 'don't believe everything you read in the paper' have been influenced by what the papers have said about what Owen wants, he's never actually said himself 'I want to go', it's been the papers saying he wants to go. thank the fucking lord someone agrees with me. ive been saying this for ages but it seems everyone wants to think the worst of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I want him to stay, he's a fantastic footballer. Couldn't give a s*** whether he f****** hates the club or not tbh. True, its not very easy to buy very good players. Perhaps that is why our team is littered with average young and average old players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 THF the main reason I see the want to jump on the "kick owen out bandwagon" is still the issue of massive investment with little pitch time. I personally would like him to stay as he does have at least 3-5 top years in him (injuries making the difference) and for the price we would get back to him I dont see there being a bigger shirt and marketing seller than owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. I agree, this compensation news has changed the picture a lot. For starters, we could buy a good player committed to Newcastle even before his transfer fee. We could and buy someone like Tevez, a young top class player with his whole career ahead of him. He should really now tell us exactly what his intentions are, although the silence says a lot. The club will know however, and if he wants to go they should actively seek to offload him asap safe in the knowledge that we haven't now lost so much money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iklgizmo Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 i honestly think the only reason he is still here is because none of the top 6 or 7 clubs want him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. I agree, this compensation news has changed the picture a lot. For starters, we could buy a good player committed to Newcastle even before his transfer fee. We could and buy someone like Tevez, a young top class player with his whole career ahead of him. He should really now tell us exactly what his intentions are, although the silence says a lot. The club will know however, and if he wants to go they should actively seek to offload him asap safe in the knowledge that we haven't now lost so much money. We've (you & me) discussed this monkey on our back before, and the inevitable kick in the teeth when we offload him or when he decides to jump, but now its a total different scenario, a one where, ok, we can't say we've done well, but take into consideration £3.5m of his fee was money owed, the £10m we've just received of the FA, and the £9m at the least were going to get if he moves, its very much a case of it doesn't matter anymore. Most NUFC fans didn't want to lose Owen mainly due to getting egg on our face, some wanted to keep the quality of the guy, which there is no disputing over, but injuries, wages, form and contract length suggest off loading him now is a sure winner for the club, and with the extra £10m, we can not look stupid for doing so. Yes it could of been better, but i've said in another thread, Liverpool let go a younger, fitter, faster on form Owen for £8m in his final season, come this time next year and he's still here, we haven't done too bad, if he goes this summer or during the winter window, we've just got to buy correctly this time, and buy a striker that isn't a luxury, and a one that is committed fully to the club. Credit where credits due, FS getting something right again in his final days. On a bit of a role, shame it took him 10 years (Although we'll no go there) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. I agree, this compensation news has changed the picture a lot. For starters, we could buy a good player committed to Newcastle even before his transfer fee. We could and buy someone like Tevez, a young top class player with his whole career ahead of him. He should really now tell us exactly what his intentions are, although the silence says a lot. The club will know however, and if he wants to go they should actively seek to offload him asap safe in the knowledge that we haven't now lost so much money. That would be like every Christmas and Birthday coming at once, if Owen goes for £9 million and we get £10 million compensation then we could add another £5 million as a first bid. I've seen figures mentioned about him going for as much as £34 million but that seems way OTT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. I agree, this compensation news has changed the picture a lot. For starters, we could buy a good player committed to Newcastle even before his transfer fee. We could and buy someone like Tevez, a young top class player with his whole career ahead of him. He should really now tell us exactly what his intentions are, although the silence says a lot. The club will know however, and if he wants to go they should actively seek to offload him asap safe in the knowledge that we haven't now lost so much money. That would be like every Christmas and Birthday coming at once, if Owen goes for £9 million and we get £10 million compensation then we could add another £5 million as a first bid. I've seen figures mentioned about him going for as much as £34 million but that seems way OTT. That's the thing that puzzles me. If a monster bid comes in for Tevez, who gets the money? Do West Ham actually own him? Was that ever cleared up? Suppose Real Madrid come in with £30m, will West Ham have that cash to spend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. I agree, this compensation news has changed the picture a lot. For starters, we could buy a good player committed to Newcastle even before his transfer fee. We could and buy someone like Tevez, a young top class player with his whole career ahead of him. He should really now tell us exactly what his intentions are, although the silence says a lot. The club will know however, and if he wants to go they should actively seek to offload him asap safe in the knowledge that we haven't now lost so much money. That would be like every Christmas and Birthday coming at once, if Owen goes for £9 million and we get £10 million compensation then we could add another £5 million as a first bid. I've seen figures mentioned about him going for as much as £34 million but that seems way OTT. Even better if Citeh pay proper money for Owen. Could be the signing that changes this club, but i doubt he'd come here, unless he sees further into his own future than i give him credit for, but i doubt he'll stick around his current club in the capital, we'd have to pay a huge wages for him, and it would right now be same old, doing what we did with Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LFEE Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I'm sure i read a couple of days after the inital £9m clause for Owen was leaked and things settled down that it actually turned out to be £11m. I can't remember which newspaper i read it but i'm sure i read it in a couple of different places. Has anyone at NUFC confirmed the actual release clause price? I can understand why they wouldn't want to but just wondered if they had? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. I agree, this compensation news has changed the picture a lot. For starters, we could buy a good player committed to Newcastle even before his transfer fee. We could and buy someone like Tevez, a young top class player with his whole career ahead of him. He should really now tell us exactly what his intentions are, although the silence says a lot. The club will know however, and if he wants to go they should actively seek to offload him asap safe in the knowledge that we haven't now lost so much money. That would be like every Christmas and Birthday coming at once, if Owen goes for £9 million and we get £10 million compensation then we could add another £5 million as a first bid. I've seen figures mentioned about him going for as much as £34 million but that seems way OTT. That's the thing that puzzles me. If a monster bid comes in for Tevez, who gets the money? Do West Ham actually own him? Was that ever cleared up? Suppose Real Madrid come in with £30m, will West Ham have that cash to spend? WHU get less than 10%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 We should re-sign Martins, and i think we will. Owen really doesn't have us over a barrel anymore, not with the compensation money, i'd imaging we'd want rid of him now as much as he wants to leave, only no one is coming forward as a buyer. I hope it is Citeh, they'll end up paying £12-14m as well, we'd be laughing if that happened. I agree, this compensation news has changed the picture a lot. For starters, we could buy a good player committed to Newcastle even before his transfer fee. We could and buy someone like Tevez, a young top class player with his whole career ahead of him. He should really now tell us exactly what his intentions are, although the silence says a lot. The club will know however, and if he wants to go they should actively seek to offload him asap safe in the knowledge that we haven't now lost so much money. That would be like every Christmas and Birthday coming at once, if Owen goes for £9 million and we get £10 million compensation then we could add another £5 million as a first bid. I've seen figures mentioned about him going for as much as £34 million but that seems way OTT. That's the thing that puzzles me. If a monster bid comes in for Tevez, who gets the money? Do West Ham actually own him? Was that ever cleared up? Suppose Real Madrid come in with £30m, will West Ham have that cash to spend? WHU get less than 10%. In that case there's a fucking rabbit away somewhere along the line... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WalkervilleMag Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 we could just offer him a free transfer now. Before it mattered with the old Board and critical debt, now we have a billionaire owner. get rid a sign Bent i say, both will get you 20 goals a season if fit. one costs £16 million to buy, the other costs us 105k per week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 we could just offer him a free transfer now. Before it mattered with the old Board and critical debt, now we have a billionaire owner. get rid a sign Bent i say, both will get you 20 goals a season if fit. one costs £16 million to buy, the other costs us 105k per week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 That's the thing that puzzles me. If a monster bid comes in for Tevez, who gets the money? Do West Ham actually own him? Was that ever cleared up? Suppose Real Madrid come in with £30m, will West Ham have that cash to spend? I've read that West Ham get nothing but I have no idea as something changed after the inquiry. I don't know if he was bought or officially loaned. I've seen quotes from the West Ham chairman saying that he's not for sale, I've no idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heero Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 its to quiet aroudn owen, dunno what will happen, hope he stays, cause face it, what has he don' for Newcastle so far, i would want hime to stay and give us something in return for his long injuries. on the other hand, will he be fit for the whole season. we'll see, don't think he will go anywhere, but ya never now then do ya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 People seem to be saying it's acceptable for him to go for £9 million now that we've got compensation for him being out, when in truth Shepherds good work in getting compensation for him has been cancelled out by the idiotic release clause he let be inserted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 WHU get less than 10%. This is all I've found so far: http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article2617382.ece Now the intention is to pair the two in a new-look strike-force with Carlos Tevez almost certain to leave the club once a fee is agreed with one of the clubs - primarily Real Madrid and Chelsea - who have registered an interest. It is thought that Tevez could cost as much as £32m. West Ham will not receive any of the transfer fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 To muddy the waters again: http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2080572,00.html On a day when the Tevez affair took on an international angle with the presidents of both Fifa and Uefa stepping into the dispute, it emerged that, under the terms of his four-year playing contract, only West Ham will benefit from the forward's sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 WHU get less than 10%. This is all I've found so far: http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article2617382.ece Now the intention is to pair the two in a new-look strike-force with Carlos Tevez almost certain to leave the club once a fee is agreed with one of the clubs - primarily Real Madrid and Chelsea - who have registered an interest. It is thought that Tevez could cost as much as £32m. West Ham will not receive any of the transfer fee. So they apparently own him but won't get a penny if he's sold... Dodgy. As. Fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Wow, loads of different stories and shit here, can only favour Sheff Utd in the hearing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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