The Bonk Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 In the Zoggy thread, AS9 brought up the fact that a player should "play for the shirt". Out of our entire squad, who do you think, honestly "plays for the shirt"? Given, Solano, Taylor, Harper, Milner, Ameobi, and Ramage are definite shirt lovers. The flipside is, who's not in it to wear the shirt and merely collect a wedge? (Not that there's anything wrong with that) Martins, Owen, Zoggy, Dyer, Carr, Bab's? Is there more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... simply because he's a geordie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 In the Zoggy thread, AS9 brought up the fact that a player should "play for the shirt". Out of our entire squad, who do you think, honestly "plays for the shirt"? Given, Solano, Taylor, Harper, Milner, Ameobi, and Ramage are definite shirt lovers. The flipside is, who's not in it to wear the shirt and merely collect a wedge? (Not that there's anything wrong with that) Martins, Owen, Zoggy, Dyer, Carr, Bab's? Is there more? It could be argued that none of them play for the shirt, money seems to be more important than the shirt these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... simply because he's a geordie? hes grew up through the club and will surely love them, he will love walking out onto st.james in a black and white shirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... simply because he's a geordie? No, because every time he's played he'd given absolutely everything and you could see how much that goal meant to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... simply because he's a geordie? hes grew up through the club and will surely love them, he will love walking out onto st.james in a black and white shirt you'd hope so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... simply because he's a geordie? No, because every time he's played he'd given absolutely everything and you could see how much that goal meant to him. you saw how much that goal meant to Luque. Of course he's going to give everything, he's trying to break into the first team squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 How can you tell someone is doing it "for the shirt" when it could just be the way they play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Daft question. What's Martins done to be lumped in what amounts to the "couldn't give a toss" category? Been linked to Arsenal in the Sun? How dare he? The utter bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloydie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 It's a tricky one. To be honest though I reckon players really play for the team. It's nice if that team is your hometown club, and maybe you approach it differently if it is, but I reckon you play for the men on the pitch with you. You hear this all the time about soldiers, when it comes down to it, it's not king or country, or noble cause, it's the bloke on your left and the bloke on your right. I reckon it's like that with footballers, you play for your team-mates, your manager, and your pride. If the club shirt is part of your pride, then all well and good, if it's not, it's not. For Shearer the club was such a huge part of his identity there was no difference between playing for himself and playing for the club, but players like that are once in a generation types. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Who gives a shit. THe whole concept of "playing for the shirt" is bollocks, imo. You'd think some people thought Owen seriously injures himself on purpose just so he doesn't have to play for us. And how is Carr just in it for the money? He's shit, but he tries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Who gives a s***. THe whole concept of "playing for the shirt" is bollocks, imo. You'd think some people thought Owen seriously injures himself on purpose just so he doesn't have to play for us. And how is Carr just in it for the money? He's s***, but he tries. Carr neglected his responsibilities on countless occasions last season and the season before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carr neglected his responsibilities on countless occasions last season and the season before That was down to lack of skill, not a willing display of neglect. Like the guy above says, he may be s*** but he does try. He's always out there sweating and running around to the best of his ability, the fact of the matter is though he's out of his depth. A SPL/Championship player at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest henke Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yeah its a bit of a tough one to call. I mean, i sit on my arse staring at celing tiles all day, avoiding work like the plague. So for me to criticize the likes of carr etc would make me a bit of a hypocrite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yeah its a bit of a tough one to call. I mean, i sit on my arse staring at celing tiles all day, avoiding work like the plague. So for me to criticize the likes of carr etc would make me a bit of a hypocrite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... simply because he's a geordie? Well why is Ramage there then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Playing for the shirt doesn't mean you're any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Playing for the shirt doesn't mean you're any good. I wasn't on about that,i was on about him being a geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I think taylor and ramage play for the shirt out of local lads. I also think given and solano love the club and play for the shirt now also. I also think milner plays for the shirt and gives his all for this club. I can't question nicky butt in the last season neither he has given his all for the club. Other players to be seen but I think geremi and barton with fight for the shirt in every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Smith is that kind of player as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carrol should be added to the list with Given etc ... simply because he's a geordie? Well why is Ramage there then ? don't ask me it's not my list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Carr neglected his responsibilities on countless occasions last season and the season before That was down to lack of skill, not a willing display of neglect. Like the guy above says, he may be s*** but he does try. He's always out there sweating and running around to the best of his ability, the fact of the matter is though he's out of his depth. A SPL/Championship player at best. he was massively overweight for a full-back last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Playing for the shirt is the kind of rhetoric the likes of Souness used as motivation... I'd far rather a player played for his team mates, manager and self above something like the shirt or badge, doing so will mean playing for the shirt or badge is inconsequential anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von Fat Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Playing for the shirt is a completely antiquated notion. You'd be lucky to have one or two players in any top premiership first XI that fit the description. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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