José Enrique

[Dave]

Heard all this bollocks before.

[TRC]

Danny Simpson is a god, and a magnificent specimen of a man.

[Guest icemanblue]

Danny Simpson is a god, and a magnificent specimen of a man.

 

Amazing what a 're-tweet' can do for someone's views on a player, eh?

[Mick]

I don't think money will be the deciding factor, he might just be ready for a change and a move to a better club.

 

Even Liverpool have lost a few of their best players in the last couple of seasons.

 

Which English clubs are better?  I can understand Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs for what they have done or because of financial clout.  Other then that, I don't see any better than us if we're at a level a club of our size should be at. 

 

People talk about Liverpool, they've only spent money they brought in from the sale of a player, they have spent next to nothing other than that yet they are being talked up as ambitious.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Heard all this bollocks before.

 

There's a truth to it though, isn't there? I mean, we know how futile and harmful it can be to 'show ambition' by just splashing money around.

[Dave]

Heard all this bollocks before.

 

There's a truth to it though, isn't there? I mean, we know how futile and harmful it can be to 'show ambition' by just splashing money around.

 

Key point in bold right there. To some people spending more than £5m and/or keeping hold of good players is one step away from being Portsmouth. That club which doesn't exist any more, remember. Our lot keep going on and on about how good their scouting team is. But in actual fact they don't trust them that much at all.

[Wil]

Sad though it is, there can't be much doubt Liverpool would be seen as a more ambitious and powerful club. The new owner has been bullish lately about where he wants to take them, and backed it up with big money and wages spent on Carroll and Suarez. That's the kind of statement top players get their heads turned by.

I'm pretty conviced Jose would have been approached months ago. They've got Comolli in there, an experienced operator, doing the deals. As compared to who? Llambias? Their whole set up is much more high powered.

Our current "statement" is all about financial stability and self-sufficiency, leading to hard bargaining with agents and high earners over new contracts. As well as constant talk about whether the manager will get all the Carroll money or not. Not something a top footballer trying to maximise his potential in terms of income and playing level is going to want to hear.

The wonderful stage of playing for our club should always attract good quality players, but under this regime I reckon the top ones will always want to move on eventually.

 

That Lpool is spending stupid money doesn't necessarily mean that they're more ambitious. They paid over price on Carroll, Johnson and Paulson. Cole flopped. Is this a sound strategy? We're having a more sensible approach, but that's not the same as lack of ambitions. Everybody was satisfied with us staying up this season. The club and players have exceeded our expectations. Is not possible to  positive? Can't we wait until after the transfer window before we start criticizing the clubs policy?

 

Wasn't saying Liverpool are great, or that I wasn't pleased with how we've done this season. We've done really well.

Just trying to see this from a player's point of view. that's all.

[Guest Stephen927]

Ashley Cole is better defensively than Enrique. Jussaying.

[Colocho]

Ashley Cole is better defensively than Enrique. Jussaying.

 

Ashley Cole is 5 years older than him though ...

[junkhead]

Ashley Cole is better defensively than Enrique. Jussaying.

 

Debatable

[oldtype]

Sad though it is, there can't be much doubt Liverpool would be seen as a more ambitious and powerful club. The new owner has been bullish lately about where he wants to take them, and backed it up with big money and wages spent on Carroll and Suarez. That's the kind of statement top players get their heads turned by.

I'm pretty conviced Jose would have been approached months ago. They've got Comolli in there, an experienced operator, doing the deals. As compared to who? Llambias? Their whole set up is much more high powered.

Our current "statement" is all about financial stability and self-sufficiency, leading to hard bargaining with agents and high earners over new contracts. As well as constant talk about whether the manager will get all the Carroll money or not. Not something a top footballer trying to maximise his potential in terms of income and playing level is going to want to hear.

The wonderful stage of playing for our club should always attract good quality players, but under this regime I reckon the top ones will always want to move on eventually.

 

That Lpool is spending stupid money doesn't necessarily mean that they're more ambitious. They paid over price on Carroll, Johnson and Paulson. Cole flopped. Is this a sound strategy? We're having a more sensible approach, but that's not the same as lack of ambitions. Everybody was satisfied with us staying up this season. The club and players have exceeded our expectations. Is not possible to  positive? Can't we wait until after the transfer window before we start criticizing the clubs policy?

 

Wasn't saying Liverpool are great, or that I wasn't pleased with how we've done this season. We've done really well.

Just trying to see this from a player's point of view. that's all.

 

Doesn't even need to be over-analyzed to that extent. Ultimately, they're Liverpool and we're Newcastle, its obvious which club any professional would be more attracted to.

[Guest Stephen927]

Ashley Cole is better defensively than Enrique. Jussaying.

 

Ashley Cole is 5 years older than him though ...

 

And does a lot more offensively too. Not as easy to defend when you're always pushing forward.

[Colocho]

Sad though it is, there can't be much doubt Liverpool would be seen as a more ambitious and powerful club. The new owner has been bullish lately about where he wants to take them, and backed it up with big money and wages spent on Carroll and Suarez. That's the kind of statement top players get their heads turned by.

I'm pretty conviced Jose would have been approached months ago. They've got Comolli in there, an experienced operator, doing the deals. As compared to who? Llambias? Their whole set up is much more high powered.

Our current "statement" is all about financial stability and self-sufficiency, leading to hard bargaining with agents and high earners over new contracts. As well as constant talk about whether the manager will get all the Carroll money or not. Not something a top footballer trying to maximise his potential in terms of income and playing level is going to want to hear.

The wonderful stage of playing for our club should always attract good quality players, but under this regime I reckon the top ones will always want to move on eventually.

 

That Lpool is spending stupid money doesn't necessarily mean that they're more ambitious. They paid over price on Carroll, Johnson and Paulson. Cole flopped. Is this a sound strategy? We're having a more sensible approach, but that's not the same as lack of ambitions. Everybody was satisfied with us staying up this season. The club and players have exceeded our expectations. Is not possible to  positive? Can't we wait until after the transfer window before we start criticizing the clubs policy?

 

Wasn't saying Liverpool are great, or that I wasn't pleased with how we've done this season. We've done really well.

Just trying to see this from a player's point of view. that's all.

 

Doesn't even need to be over-analyzed to that extent. Ultimately, they're Liverpool and we're Newcastle, its obvious which club any professional would be more attracted to.

 

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[TRC]

Danny Simpson is a god, and a magnificent specimen of a man.

 

Amazing what a 're-tweet' can do for someone's views on a player, eh?

 

I'm not sure what this is? I've had my tongue up his arse for a while now.

[Fenham Mag]

Meh, you can't keep a player who doesn't want to stay . On to the next one is all i have to say on this subject.

[Dave]

Meh, you can't keep a player who doesn't want to stay . On to the next one is all i have to say on this subject.

 

It could be beneficial if we address the reason he doesn't want to stay if that's indeed the case.

[Fenham Mag]

Meh, you can't keep a player who doesn't want to stay . On to the next one is all i have to say on this subject.

 

It could be beneficial if we address the reason he doesn't want to stay.

 

Yeh, Pardew should be doing that. Who knows though, he might not like the area.

[Alberto2005]

Just sell him, if he doesn't want to be here then get the money and spend the money. The problem obviously that the majority of the money recieved for Enrique would be saved.

[Dave]

It's depressing that if he does go you can bet your bottom dollar the club will portray him as a greedy twat. Even more depressing is the number of fans that will evidently accept that without question.

 

Again.

[TRC]

I just think he is weighing up his options. I can understand why he'd want to leave, if I was him I would too.

 

It would be like me playing for Hercules in Spain and teams like Valencia and Villareal c Ioming in for me. I'd sack Trezeguet and co off asap and get conkers deep in Mata.

[Colocho]

I just think he is weighing up his options. I can understand why he'd want to leave, if I was him I would too.

 

It would be like me playing for Hercules in Spain and teams like Valencia and Villareal c Ioming in for me. I'd sack Trezeguet and co off asap and get conkers deep in Mata.

 

We aren't like Hercules, man!

[TRC]

Sorry I was getting mixed up with them and Levante.

[Fenham Mag]

We aren't like Levante either

[JH]

It's depressing that if he does go you can bet your bottom dollar the club will portray him as a greedy t***. Even more depressing is the number of fans that will evidently accept that without question.

 

Again.

 

Can't remember many accepting the Carroll transfer (assume that's what you're referring to) 'without question'.

 

I can't speak for others, but I looked at the whole situation and came to an opinion based on what was presented to me. I didn't fully blame Carroll, just like I didn't fully blame the club. As opposed to just rejecting the club's stance without question, which alot seemed to do.

[Baggio]

I wouldn't be surprised if Enrique has told the club he wants to leave and they've asked him to keep it quiet until the summer, we will find out more when we pick up another 3 points which Jose has said will be enough to keep us up and how quick contract negotiations open afterwards but my gut feeling is he's already gone in his head and the club are preparing to replace him.

 

I do feel let down by him but there isn't much loyalty in football I guess, it's only this season where his reputation has grown as a top flight player so it's a kick in the bollocks that he will push to jump ship the first chance he gets, still we had this feeling with Beye and Bassong when both left and neither get mention much any more as they haven't been that great since leaving.

 

It will be interesting to see how ambitious Liverpool really are as the comments about how they didn't care how much they paid for Carroll as long as they made £15 million on Torres suggests they were out to break even that window rather than spending massive amounts, they've also been the most vocal about the new financial fair play system so I don't see them putting much in, at the same time you have to accept that even if they have had a poor season by their standards (likely) coming 6th they are still one of the biggest clubs in World football and any player with no strong connections would be daft to turn them down, step forward Dietmar Hamann.