stozo Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 About Allardyce's football driving fans away? Seriously, I'm racking my brains to think of a more boring game I've watched involving Newcastle. The midfield Allardyce has created was especially bad, defensively solid but showed naff all going forward. I seriously hope today was a one off and we don't keep playing this defensively, especially at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridman Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 We needed Emre or Barton on the bench to replace Smith/Butt, they created NOTHING. Seriously how many times did our forwards get the ball from the midfield? Our only attacking threat was Milner, as last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 About Allardyce's football driving fans away? Seriously, I'm racking my brains to think of a more boring game I've watched involving Newcastle. The midfield Allardyce has created was especially bad, defensively solid but showed naff all going forward. I seriously hope today was a one off and we don't keep playing this defensively, especially at home. Because Marton O'Neill is a cavalier manager who never sets his team out defensively... any chance that might have contributed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I guess maybe he's being forced to play such a negative midfield with emre and barton being out? Really hope thats the case, because i'd hate to see this tandem play too many games together again, espescially at home games against teams we should be attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Nah I cant really see it going the same here as it did at Bolton. Look at the stick the lads got today, after just one game. BS knows he cant do this sort of thing at home, and has already said so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Its is second game we cant expect to win every game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Who else could we have played in the middle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 About Allardyce's football driving fans away? Seriously, I'm racking my brains to think of a more boring game I've watched involving Newcastle. The midfield Allardyce has created was especially bad, defensively solid but showed naff all going forward. I seriously hope today was a one off and we don't keep playing this defensively, especially at home. Because Marton O'Neill is a cavalier manager who never sets his team out defensively... any chance that might have contributed. Didn't stop us beating them 3-1 against virtaully the same team last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Way to early for this sort of thread. Barton is hardly a creative force, he is an all action hardworking midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridman Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Way to early for this sort of thread. Barton is hardly a creative force, he is an all action hardworking midfielder. Still scored 6 and made 5 assists last season for City in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I've seen some abysmal Newcastle games - and as for Gartside - I'm sure he's delighted his team being managed by a useless scouse dwarf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Way to early for this sort of thread. Barton is hardly a creative force, he is an all action hardworking midfielder. But he's a driving force through the middle, something we havent had either of the games this season. Him +Emre+geremi/butt is the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Its is second game we cant expect to win every game Not so bothered about the result but the way we played was so negative and we created next to nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 rubbish, it wasn't a great game but i've seen hundreds of worse games involving us. ultimately if we're successful the fans will be excited, regardless of the style of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Who else could we have played in the middle? Noone, he could/should have taken Geremi out and put him on the right. And gone 442. We so badly need a Diouf-like player upfront if we're playing 433 and could do with Emre back aswell. There was a shocking lack of creativity/passing/anything going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Who else could we have played in the middle? Should have played a midfield 4 of Milner-Smith-Geremi-Zog, atleast we would have some creativity from the wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 About Allardyce's football driving fans away? Seriously, I'm racking my brains to think of a more boring game I've watched involving Newcastle. Racking your brains?.. what?! Try numerous games last season... We've played badley one game, oh no lets all panic Get a grip!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Oh for fucks sake, we are a new team who are still learning, playing the most boring away team in the Premiership. Nothing is going to be perfect this season. In fact, I think this is the reality check some people needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 About Allardyce's football driving fans away? Seriously, I'm racking my brains to think of a more boring game I've watched involving Newcastle. The midfield Allardyce has created was especially bad, defensively solid but showed naff all going forward. I seriously hope today was a one off and we don't keep playing this defensively, especially at home. Because Marton O'Neill is a cavalier manager who never sets his team out defensively... any chance that might have contributed. Didn't stop us beating them 3-1 against virtaully the same team last season. any result against them last year was more by luck than judgement. You cant just say because we beat them last year we shoudl beat them this year. Dont work like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Way to early for this sort of thread. Barton is hardly a creative force, he is an all action hardworking midfielder. But he's a driving force through the middle, something we havent had either of the games this season. Him +Emre+geremi/butt is the way to go. Barton isn't the answer. We need an ball-player, and someone who can carry the ball - Emre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 ultimately if we're successful the fans will be excited, regardless of the style of play. You can't be successful playing a defensive system against a defensive team. You just end up with a stalemate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonufc Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Oh for fucks sake, we are a new team who are still learning, playing the most boring away team in the Premiership. Nothing is going to be perfect this season. In fact, I think this is the reality check some people needed. Exactly what he said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Oh for fucks sake, we are a new team who are still learning, playing the most boring away team in the Premiership. Nothing is going to be perfect this season. In fact, I think this is the reality check some people needed. Exactly what he said the thing is, its the first home game of essentially a new era, and we play sloppy longball football. Its not like we tried to go forward and were stopped by an amazingly orginized villa side. the game plan we set out with was way too negative for the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonufc Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Oh for fucks sake, we are a new team who are still learning, playing the most boring away team in the Premiership. Nothing is going to be perfect this season. In fact, I think this is the reality check some people needed. Exactly what he said the thing is, its the first home game of essentially a new era, and we play sloppy longball football. Its not like we tried to go forward and were stopped by an amazingly orginized villa side. the game plan we set out with was way too negative for the match. Believe or not our game plan wasn't negative. I think thats demonstrated by the fact that straight after the first whistle we drove forward and got a corner. It wasn't supposed to be a "negative" performance as you call it. Villa were very organsied and there wasn't a lot of space in midfield due to both teams playing 4 3 3. The midfield was far too crowded (not Big Sam's fault) for a game of open football and there wasn't much we could do about this, it was mainly down to Villa who were hardworking and organised. Don't forget they played very well at Liverpool last week, it's not as if we just failed to beat Derby or something. So many fans are giving knee-jerk reactions, after last week it was "we should be aiming for fifth", and now its "we can't even beat villa, we're a long ball team". Get a hold of yourself and give Sam the time he needs to do his thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 This is a shocking thread! Are you racking your brain hard enough? Try the 5 - 0 loss to Birmingham at home last season. I for one thought we were no where near as bad as people on here are claiming. Our attacking play wasn't as good today because we couldn't play off Viduka who struggled badly, and was dominated by Laursen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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