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Agree re how slow and useless Paddy Power are, Nketiah was fouled to win this on about 86 mins (Mateta already won 1 before he was replaced) and yet they were still offering me about £6 cash out for the duration of the 10+ mins extra time before eventually settling it afterwards.

69 guaranteees it. There is a scenario that 68 isn't enough.

The draw scenario gets weird as it comes down to our gd vs Chelsea. If we're assuming Chelsea get a draw, a win and a loss in this, and we get the same and we're currently on the same gd it comes down to how many goals we beat them by, how many goals we lose to arsenal by, and how many goals Chelsea beat man u by. Admittedly I can see that going more Chelsea's way than us. Chelsea could probably thrash man u, and we are capable of getting thrashed by arsenal.

Someone on Reddit has created this.

If we draw on Sunday I thinks its all over for us unless we beat Arsenal and Everton.

68 is the magic number

Not necessarily but we’ll need others to slip up

Numbers, numbers, numbers!

Understandably, there's too much over thinking going on. It's simple, It's in our own hands, just what we would have wanted with just 3 games left. One game at a time, win the next one, that's all we need to focus on.

Can’t see Villa being perfect in their last 3. Forest will need to beat Chelsea to get CL qualification last day

If we draw on Sunday will we need something from the Arsenal game?

Just check Betfair though and had this on. Was nowhere near at half time. One more foul on Anderson needed 🤢

They already did a whole MLS season of it quite a while ago now. Every team had the big three stripes. Was canny.

PP are fuckers for that take ages to update builders and no cash out offered. I was an Anderson booking away from a £99 from a £3 free bet. Followed this from betting village though

I think so but my head is all over the place with these calculations now

I bet adidas will revisit the geet big adidas stripes on the shoulder at some point. EVERYTHING gets revisited at some point.

You’re not right on the draw scenario. Forest would be a point above us and Chelsea would be level. We may be above Chelsea on GD but may not.

Just listened to Olley's interview. Sounds like the whole thing is fucked to be honest, loads of players out of contract (himself included) and they are between ownerships so no sign of it getting sorted out. @CoreOfNUFC you seem quite on the pulse of most things, any idea what he is referring to about the disgraceful thing that happened in the "foyer of another club" last weekend"?

I think if villa are gonna drop points from their next 3 it'll be to bournemouth away. Still man u and spurs are also capable of getting lucky and just not losing every now and then too. We're defo capable of getting a point from either arsenal away or everton at home. I think the most difficult will be beating chelsea though, which is why this Sunday is just so damn important

I kind of get it now. So we get to 67, Villa draw at Bournemouth and their max is 67 but with an inferior gd to us. Let’s say Chelsea have lost to us but win their next two, they finish on 69 ahead of us. Forest of course would in that scenario only win two to give them 67 but with a worse gd than us. We finish in 5th above Forest. If Forest win all of their remaining games they finish on 70, above us but we’re in 5th with Chelsea on 66 in 6th?

Massive Bournemouth fans on Saturday then. If they can pull something off for us and we beat Chelsea my confidence will be restored. Just hope it's one of those games like the two Arsenal semis were we are just on it from minute one. Would like to see Gordon come back in at very least just to freshen things up. Miley played well against these last season is it time to give him a chance?

Not if villa win both their games before the last day Forest winning at West ham isn't nailed on either

Yes it is true that if we beat Chelsea and villa draw then one more point for us secures top 5.

Forrest will be on 67 if they win their next 2

We beat Chelsea and get a draw from our remaining 2 we are on 67. If villa don't win all of their remaining 3 they are also on 67 but have way worse gd than us so that would be them out. If Chelsea lose to us in this scenario, then beat man u they'd be on 66 going into their last game with forest. Then if forest win their next two they would also be on 66 going into their last game with Chelsea. So three scenarios here: Chelsea win, they get cl, forest are on 66 and we are on 67 so we go through with them over forest Forest win, they get cl, Chelsea are on 66 and we are on 67, so we go through over Chelsea Forest and Chelsea draw: forest, Chelsea and us end on 67 points. But our gd and Chelsea's is much better than forests so we'd probably go through over them (and when I say probably I mean almost definitely as forest are never turning that gd around in this scenario). So yeah tl;Dr version, if we beat Chelsea and Villa draw or lose to bournemouth (or just don't win all their remaining games), then we'd only need one additional points from arsenal or everton to secure cl.