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I actually quoted it, to give you a clue as to which post I was quoting. He's asked for a new contract, and because he hasn't got it, he's handed in a transfer request with a week to replace him. Of course, that's professional of him. You see NO wrong doing here from him?

£12m for Milner would be the best bit of business this club has ever done IMO.

Which one of our signings hadn't you heard of? Probably 1 of the 4, who is yet to play in the Premiership right? jonas? Don't people on here watch Spanish football? Serious question like...

That's a great comeback. Nothing to add on the actual subject then? Sorry I forgot about the quality in depth post I was replying to. You of all people should be the last people commenting on a "xxxxx loves this player" thing given your IP address can be traced back to Frank Lampards arse. Another great post. You're an adult aren't you? Sorry what did your post have to do with the subject of this thread? If you want to come on and be a dick don't cry if I reply to your comments. Well it was in relation to your post about Milner being perfectly innocent. I've never seen a post from you about Milner which doesn't portray him in a postive light, and I think there's something in that. He slaps in a transfer request a week before the deadline, and you don't think the fans have a right to be angry about that? As I said, you're becoming a parody of yourself. You love the fact that people take the piss about you loving Milner, so you play up to it. On the other hand, if you seriously think that Milner has done no wrong here, you're simply deluded. Stop acting like a spoilt brat who has had his toy taken away.

That's a great comeback. Nothing to add on the actual subject then? Sorry I forgot about the quality in depth post I was replying to. You of all people should be the last people commenting on a "xxxxx loves this player" thing given your IP address can be traced back to Frank Lampards arse. Another great post. You're an adult aren't you?

Which one of our signings hadn't you heard of? Probably 1 of the 4, who is yet to play in the Premiership right?

That's a great comeback. Nothing to add on the actual subject then?

People were prepared to give Butt a chance because it was clear he was staying here, Milner on the other hand would be off and the fans would know that he didn't want to be here. I think you are selling the fans a little short but we wont know unless he stays. He hasn't (imo) done anything dirty to push for a transfer like a few this summer and hopefully the majority are intelligent enough to appreciate that and how professional and hardworking he has been for us in the past. Maybe I am being naive though. Becoming a parody of yourself I'm afraid Jon. ? It's almost as if you're playing along with the whole "Jon loves Milner" thing. Look, he doesn't want to be here. It's not the first time he's actually wanted to leave. £10m is a stupid amount of money for a pretty average player, regardless of who we get in to replace him.

People were prepared to give Butt a chance because it was clear he was staying here, Milner on the other hand would be off and the fans would know that he didn't want to be here. I think you are selling the fans a little short but we wont know unless he stays. He hasn't (imo) done anything dirty to push for a transfer like a few this summer and hopefully the majority are intelligent enough to appreciate that and how professional and hardworking he has been for us in the past. Maybe I am being naive though. Becoming a parody of yourself I'm afraid Jon.

Maybe Dawson's new contract involved a clause allowing him to join us if Milner left?

Messi and Modric

Was there an award for best penalty takers in shit conditions?

Unlike us then?

Righto. The club revolves around James Milner. I've heard it all now.

No Japanese! Then I'm back on Beasley. You're American, right?

I personally think Sunderland won't be too far behind us this season. Pretty decent squad they're putting together. They were missing a goalscorer last season, and now they've got one.

Zero chance, but lovely idea.

No, we needed 6 or 7 before we let Carr, Roz, Faye, Emre, Ramage etc go. OK, they're not very good, but they're numbers. Carr was dogshit and made the team worse. For Ramage see above. Rozehnal was already gone. Emre was always injured. No loss at all. Faye has been replaced by Bassong (though I'd have kept him tbf). I see your point, and I still think we need three, but honestly numbers don't mean anything when the players are that useless. If that's the case, why do clubs bother with squad players at all? Why not just pick the best 11 players you can get your hands on and then put 7 young lads on the bench? Why's John O'Shea still at Manchester United for example? Pretty shit player, especially by their standards, yet is often called upon. Signing better players BEFORE you get rid of the shit is the way the successful teams work. John O'Shea's not that bad though, not to mention the fact he cost them nowt and Fergie has schooled him the way he needs to be able to chuck him in and know he will fill the gap temporarily. I'm not saying we don't need squad players, just that we have them already. What we need are first-teamers to push them out or at least compete, and those are the hard signings to make. The players we're going for now are for the first team, I'm certain of it. So why are people talking about things being ok when Barton and Viduka etc are back? Which first team players are you thinking need replacing?

Great call. Then get Saviola and Di Maria.

Something inside me dies every time I see Butt's name on the teamsheet.

No, we needed 6 or 7 before we let Carr, Roz, Faye, Emre, Ramage etc go. OK, they're not very good, but they're numbers. Carr was dogshit and made the team worse. For Ramage see above. Rozehnal was already gone. Emre was always injured. No loss at all. Faye has been replaced by Bassong (though I'd have kept him tbf). I see your point, and I still think we need three, but honestly numbers don't mean anything when the players are that useless. If that's the case, why do clubs bother with squad players at all? Why not just pick the best 11 players you can get your hands on and then put 7 young lads on the bench? Why's John O'Shea still at Manchester United for example? Pretty shit player, especially by their standards, yet is often called upon. Signing better players BEFORE you get rid of the shit is the way the successful teams work.

To be fair, I think I'm more worried because I get can't get the Rossi, Sibierski and Bernard signings out of my head

No, we needed 6 or 7 before we let Carr, Roz, Faye, Emre, Ramage etc go. OK, they're not very good, but they're numbers.

That's the crux of it, even KK is far from certain that we'll get the players in. If he's concerned, I think we have every right to be too. Just because he said in a few quotes that he's less optimistic, doesn't mean nothing will happen. At the end of the day, it's not the end of the world if we don't get anyone else in. We're still playing good football. Reckon we can get through until January with the same 12 or 13 players on form with no injuries? We need squad players. We've just had a great start to the season while missing Viduka, Barton, Martins, and others. When they are back I personally believe we can get through to January OK. Ideally we need another 3 players, but it's not the end of the world. Of course it's not the end of the world, but last season we were nothing short of awful in midfield, and we've not even spoken about a central midfielder since the Modric story. People have gone from the "we need 6 or 7 players" before half of the squad left to "a couple should do it". Why? Because people kneejerk claiming we need to spend £150 million to get into the top 6, and that only a few of our players are good enough for a top half team. Our squad is no smaller than the likes of Man City, Portsmouth, Everton, Villa or Blackburn. We've actually got quite a big squad, but you wouldn't want half of them near the first team. After Martins, Owen and Viduka, there isn't a striker in the squad who could make an impact. All three of those are generally injured, as is being shown now. I know it's gonna take time to ship out the rubbish and replace them with decent players, but if we get injuries to any of our first teamers we're going to end up around 12th or 13th, which is going to mean a wasted season and transfer window in my opinion. That's the same for the majority of clubs, look at the likes of Everton, Portsmouth or Blackburn past their starting 11, they're fucking rubbish. Our problem has been we've suffered with injury prone players, but the majority of the players we've lost hardly played anyway, that's not me saying that we don't need more players but 2 or 3 would be easily good enough. I agree that we only need 2 or 3. I'm saying that it would actually be a problem if we didn't get anyone, especially if Milner goes. Big chance that Smith is still leaving too, which although they're both pretty average, wouldn't leave us many players to put a team out in the carling cup without using our regular 11.

Bet he outscores him this season, regardless.