Scottish Mag

I blame Jim White...

Is it Lukas Ramsauer reporting it?

Cheers. Thank Gemmill, he posted it over on Toontastic..

Our lot are no angels either. I nearly got into an argument with some prick three rows behind me who was shouting "Get into these Scottish bastards, break their fucking legs". Surprisingly the Celtic supporters sitting in the Milburn didn't react to it, I did though. Wanker

Amateurs tbh I seem to recall a story about some German manager called Hitzfeld making the news a while back... Also just as a trial to see how lazy journalists were the same "journalist" reported a story on Schweinsteiger for Glasgow Rangers, it was too easy. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=5026&hl=bastian

He was linked with Celtic the other week. It was pointed out that there defence then would be lining up.. Naylor Balde Fanni

Bort?? Aww man. "We need more Bort licence plates in the gift shop..." "Bort, Bort? Who calls their son Bort???" "I'm Bort!" "Are you talking to me?" "No my son is named Bort also" etc... Lets "abort" this line of comments! Anyone know when "Wednesday morning" actually is? It usually follows Tueday night..

We are? Where?

Source please. Club records, Chronicle, Times, Guardian. I've provided the source on Babayaro so many times to you, totally ignored, that it is not worth taking the time to find it again. Are the Chronicle, Times and Guardian not classed as the media?

No that was Kevin McNaughton

How often have you seen him play?

Like who? How do you know hes not going to be a top quality player? Were Toure and Vidic seen as top class players before signing for Arsenal and Man United? Vidic was chased by a lot of top teams (Manu, Liverpool, Inter, Chelsea, Madrid) , no idea about Toure. So was Gooch to be fair...

Like who? How do you know hes not going to be a top quality player? Were Toure and Vidic seen as top class players before signing for Arsenal and Man United?

Linked with Celtic in the media up here..

Sunderland (H) August 18th

When he decides to switch on the invisible mode he appears lazy. For all the times I seen him play rarely did I ever see this "invisible mode".. At Celtic he was one of the hardest working players in the team.

It is very very easy, and of course a favourite pastime, for fans to slate a poacher type striker for being lazy. A poacher has to go invisible during games so that he is not noticed and tightly marked by the defenders. It is best if defenders totally forgot about his existence. RVN, Owen, Trezeguet, Inzhagi, Larsson, Fred etc are all lazy strikers. When fat Ronaldo is lazy he is really being lazy because his game is not about going invisible and strike out of the blue. But it is very unfair to critise Trezeguet for being lazy when it is his duty to be lazy. Only a poor and bad poacher striker does not appear lazy. Sorry but Larsson was far from a lazy player...

If Rangers had the balls + cash they could of had Gattuso & Arteta bossing there midfield. Naaa. Gattuso was always going to move on, he was just too good to remain in Scotland for his career. Just think of the quality difference between him and Scottish and Rangers legend, best player Scotland have, captain fan-dabby-dozy etc... Barry Ferguson. Gattuso left as he wasn't getting a game and he never looked like he was going to turn out the player he did. As for Arteta I think he surprised many at Everton as whilst at Rangers you could see the guy had class he used to go missing all too often and could not handle the physical side of the game.

And thats the point I was getting it. It was not aimed specifically at NE5 its just that anytime any of the Old Firm are mentioned on here they are all tarred with the same brush. Take my points on face value SM. They are nothing more or less than that. I am disappointed that you have not replied to my reply. In my experience the vast majority of Rangers and Celtic supporters - however good lads they are - have an attitude which engulfs bigotry. They may not realise it, in fact they don't. I'm not castigating them for it if they know nothing differently, I'm pointing out the problem, which is deeper and outside of football. I suspect you know this already, so why not admit it instead of defending it ? I don't like NUFC playing these shitbags, and I think all other clubs should avoid them too and alienate them for this reason. I think that its all about standards. For instance, if someone, or some sets of fans, made racist comments or whatever, the rest of football would take them to task for it. I think the obvious support, bigotry, and backing of terrorists is 10 times worse. Sorry Leazes/NE5 but that is alot of bollocks where the f*** am I defending it? I am however defending those thousands of supporters who want to support a football club and are there for footballing reasons only. Seeing as you are doing your standrad "answer my question", to my knowledge seeing as I go to Newcastle games not Old Firm ones no not very often you will hear IRA or bigoted songs anymore. Both clubs have taken a string stance on it and are being pro active in the battle against bigotry and people are being banned etc if found to be singing these songs, The Rangers chairman has recently stated he would ban all supporters from away games if found guilty of continuing. However that is irrelevant, I am aware there is a percentage of bigots on both side, christ I live in the West of Scotland, my point being is that all too often these clubs and many of their supporters are generalised and unfairly too. As I said earlier, Ritchie, I have met some good lads who just support their football team , but they have ALL at some stage brought this bollocks into play. You can deny this if you like, but its true, as someone has also just said, the 2 things have gone cap in hand for a long time. So you are generalising based on those you have met. I know many many including friends, family and work colleagues. I can deny it yes, especially as I live surrounded by it. Yes I know idiots who are into orange walks etc but they are far outnumbered by those who have no interest in the other side. I also know Protestants who support Celtic and Catholics who support Rangers, if religion and bigotry played such a big part for them I hardly think they would be supporting the teams they do. Whilst I have no affiliation with either of the Old Firm I have been brought up in a non bigoted household and my father is a Celtic Season Ticket Holder so yes I take offence when the generalisations are that "they are all" bigoted wankers etc..

And thats the point I was getting it. It was not aimed specifically at NE5 its just that anytime any of the Old Firm are mentioned on here they are all tarred with the same brush. Take my points on face value SM. They are nothing more or less than that. I am disappointed that you have not replied to my reply. In my experience the vast majority of Rangers and Celtic supporters - however good lads they are - have an attitude which engulfs bigotry. They may not realise it, in fact they don't. I'm not castigating them for it if they know nothing differently, I'm pointing out the problem, which is deeper and outside of football. I suspect you know this already, so why not admit it instead of defending it ? I don't like NUFC playing these shitbags, and I think all other clubs should avoid them too and alienate them for this reason. I think that its all about standards. For instance, if someone, or some sets of fans, made racist comments or whatever, the rest of football would take them to task for it. I think the obvious support, bigotry, and backing of terrorists is 10 times worse. Sorry Leazes/NE5 but that is alot of bollocks where the f*** am I defending it? I am however defending those thousands of supporters who want to support a football club and are there for footballing reasons only. Seeing as you are doing your standrad "answer my question", to my knowledge seeing as I go to Newcastle games not Old Firm ones no not very often you will hear IRA or bigoted songs anymore. Both clubs have taken a string stance on it and are being pro active in the battle against bigotry and people are being banned etc if found to be singing these songs, The Rangers chairman has recently stated he would ban all supporters from away games if found guilty of continuing. However that is irrelevant, I am aware there is a percentage of bigots on both side, christ I live in the West of Scotland, my point being is that all too often these clubs and many of their supporters are generalised and unfairly too.

Change Russian for French and you could be describing Sib..

I can't see him being that cheap tbh. Moscow paid 1.6 million for him and hes on a reported £16,000 a week. Though I would rather see a player who has age on his side than have Sib for another year.

And thats the point I was getting it. It was not aimed specifically at NE5 its just that anytime any of the Old Firm are mentioned on here they are all tarred with the same brush. Tbf, they bring it on themselves. Who do? All of them? No, but a lot. The problem now is that it's difficult to separate the sectarianism from genuine support of the club when the two have basically gone hand in hand for a long time. You say its difficult, so what its easier just to stereotype by being prejudiced?

And thats the point I was getting it. It was not aimed specifically at NE5 its just that anytime any of the Old Firm are mentioned on here they are all tarred with the same brush. Tbf, they bring it on themselves. Who do? All of them?