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Now I think that's bollocks. Not one player should need to be motivated by the England boss to play in a World Cup. That's horseshit imo. I didn't say that they lacked motivation from the manager. Not one SHOULD be but they clearly do lack motivation. I don't necessarily think that's down to the manager, but they've played like they don't care, that they couldn't give two f***s what happened, and we've paid the price as a result - they're clearly good enough to go far in the World Cup, otherwise they wouldn't be Premier League and Champions League winners. Fair enough, so why should Capello lose his job because his players don't care about playing for their country? I didn't say he should be sacked I was just responding to those that were putting the blame entirely on the players not being good enough. Not giving a s*** isn't too far fom not being good enough/up to the job. The problem (which we agree on) is the players not performing as they can/should. I blame the players directly for that but you think they're good enough - which is fair enough. I hope Capello keeps his job and rips that squad apart and calls up 15 young hungry players into his next squad and sticks by them. Good enough footballing wise. In terms of attitude, they'll never get anywhere. If that's the case then they shouldn't be there then. A good footballer has got the ability AND the attitude imo.

Now I think that's bollocks. Not one player should need to be motivated by the England boss to play in a World Cup. That's horseshit imo. I didn't say that they lacked motivation from the manager. Not one SHOULD be but they clearly do lack motivation. I don't necessarily think that's down to the manager, but they've played like they don't care, that they couldn't give two f***s what happened, and we've paid the price as a result - they're clearly good enough to go far in the World Cup, otherwise they wouldn't be Premier League and Champions League winners. Fair enough, so why should Capello lose his job because his players don't care about playing for their country? I didn't say he should be sacked I was just responding to those that were putting the blame entirely on the players not being good enough. Not giving a shit isn't too far fom not being good enough/up to the job. The problem (which we agree on) is the players not performing as they can/should. I blame the players directly for that but you think they're good enough - which is fair enough. I hope Capello keeps his job and rips that squad apart and calls up 15 young hungry players into his next squad and sticks by them.

Now I think that's bollocks. Not one player should need to be motivated by the England boss to play in a World Cup. That's horseshit imo. I didn't say that they lacked motivation from the manager. Not one SHOULD be but they clearly do lack motivation. I don't necessarily think that's down to the manager, but they've played like they don't care, that they couldn't give two fucks what happened, and we've paid the price as a result - they're clearly good enough to go far in the World Cup, otherwise they wouldn't be Premier League and Champions League winners. Fair enough, so why should Capello lose his job because his players don't care about playing for their country?

Now I think that's bollocks. Not one player should need to be motivated by the England boss to play in a World Cup. That's horseshit imo.

The first half hour was as poor a defensive display as I've ever seen from an England back 4. Couldn't have complained if we'd been 4 down after 30 mins. Fucking shambolic stuff.

If the FA bin Capello tomorrow (or he walks) who on Earth are they going to turn to next? He's one of the best in the business, they headhunted him and got him, gave him a long contract and are paying him about £5m a year.......How fucking stupid are they going to look if they sack him? More to the point, who would want the job who would command the respect of the fans, media and players?

No. He's made mistakes and sent some weird subs on but he's been badly let down by his players imo. Half the squad needs replacing and if that means either Lampard, Gerrard or both of them are binned then so be it. Choose a system, get some young legs in the squad and stick by them. Let's take a leaf out of the German book and build for the next World Cup.

Can't have any problems accepting that result, the better team won easily. Yeah the Lampard goal would have seen us go in level but let's not kid ourselves that we played well and lost. We played shite and lost. We weren't the heroic underdogs who've played above themselves and gone out unluckily. We went out because our back 4 were a fucking shambles. I'm struggling to think of a worse performance from an English defence. Nope, no complaints, we simply weren't good enough. No scapegoats, no death threats for the linesman, just flat out not good enough. Annoying and frustrating but true.

Given lost every single one of the brownie points he'd built up over the years when he engineered his way out of the club. Not got a problem with him leaving or the reasons behind it but it was the manner in which he left which left a bitter taste. You want to leave? Do it right and be honest and upfront. He didn't, he was a snidey little fucker and it could possibly have cost the club a few million quid. He's a wanker.

Remind me not to open this thread at work. Fuck me...

The problem with football in the US is tht it will never ever come close to baseball, basketball or the NFL. It may, one day, be as popular as Ice hockey but it's always going to be a minority sport. The best athletes that the US produces over the next 25 years will be still be competing in the MLB, NBA or the NFL. The US will always do ok but they'll never come close to being the best.

When you do get one be sure to mention it it the materialism thread. And the mood thread. And in this thread. Obviously.

Ignoring the cringeworthy ITV 'whole of Africa' stuff, I'm genuinely pleased that an African team is still in it. Good on 'em and I hope they do well.

biasness? Agree to an extent though. Getting more and more disillusioned with the game every season tbh.

Like the look of Chile. Bit of a daft system and still temperamental and fiesty but I can identify with that.

If Joe Cole doesn't start Capello is just making a rod for his own back IMO. ....but if he does he'll be accused of 'giving in' to Terry. (as jhonnypd pointed out earlier) Whatever gets a result IMO. Pretty sure Capello will be totally comitted to getting a result even if it looks like he's giving in. Tricky one. He's got to start him (if fit), I think pretty much everyone agrees on that. The result is always going to the most important thing tomorrow and if Capello loses a bit of face in the process then so be it. The team has to come first.

If Joe Cole doesn't start Capello is just making a rod for his own back IMO. ....but if he does he'll be accused of 'giving in' to Terry. (as jhonnypd pointed out earlier)

Fucking hell, talk about having an over-inflated opinion of yourself.

Capello had to kill this one stone dead and it looks like he's put Terry firmly in his place. It's great when mouthy arseholes get a dose of their own.

I bet Beckham's got something to do with this. The pernicious little spunk-bubble. [/unfounded]

He's a snake. Clearly still bears a grudge over being stripped of the captaincy and is trying to undermine Capello by stirring the shite. Absolute wanker.

Gotcha. Are you sure you're not a Chelsea fan who's been hypnotised or something btw?

Is this in your 'Fantasy XI' or your 'World XI' or both? Still not sure of who we're picking here or why tbh. Are they not the same thing?

I would too, but that's a fantasy Xl. What I was trying to get at, was just about every club would be interested in signing and starting those 5. That's moved the goalposts a little tbh. Lampard & Gerrard > Xavi, Iniesta or Essien? Not sure what we're going for here. I didn't say that though, mate. In my original post I said "all but the very best teams." Madrid would take Lampard or Gerrard in an eyeblink, imo. No, I think your original post was: I was going on the phrase 'just about any first XI in world football'. That sounded like you meant the best XI it was possible to name. Not arsed really. I still don't think we've got enough good players to win the thing, or come close tbh. Sadly. :-[

I would too, but that's a fantasy Xl. What I was trying to get at, was just about every club would be interested in signing and starting those 5. That's moved the goalposts a little tbh. Lampard & Gerrard > Xavi, Iniesta or Essien? Not sure what we're going for here.