madras

good idea. hope it takes off. i shall be signing up in due course.

good grief man he challenged for a corner and i'm now supposed to take on board that he is soo good despite what i have seen. he's abig lad and out to impress, challenging like that is the least we should expect,shola used to, carroll does etc. You brought up the Cardiff match as being a bad one for him, i pointed out that without him we wouldnt have scored the goal we did & won the match. Seems a pretty obviously valid point. Obviously i think his performances as a whole were more impressive than you do also. You could use the least we could expect argument to disregard any positive attribute. Like Krul saving shots. A young player challenging 3 of the opposition and getting us a positive outcome, isnt really the least most would expect. so his most productive thing in the game was to challenge for a header, the least that should be expected for a big forward. even if he'd scored the winner it wouldn't mean he'd played well.

who's liking danny guthrie ? You said you thought he was MOTM. Thinking back he was really good that night so ignore that comment. Gonna bail on this one early! he was MotM for me that night. the thing is i don't have favourites so i can view players objectivly. you'll find i've been very critical of guthrie in the past for going missing. my problem is i'm too honest.

who's liking danny guthrie ?

I wouldnt expect many players to be able to challenge two defenders & a goalkeeper and force them to make an error because of it. Strength in a target man is a very useful trait, he has a good amount of it & used it in that situation to keep an attacking move going when another would have let it fall away. The move came from a corner & i would give praise to all 3 players involved yes. good grief man he challenged for a corner and i'm now supposed to take on board that he is soo good despite what i have seen. he's abig lad and out to impress, challenging like that is the least we should expect,shola used to, carroll does etc.

Was a performance to be remembered too. Indeed, I remember how s*** he was And somehow manage to forget how s*** Ranger was in the first half against Leicester, or away at Peterbrough, or in a fair few of his sub apperances. Was brilliant the whole game against Leicester if I remember correctly. Most of his sub appearances have been under 20 minutes or so. He has had more time recently to be fair but he's still looked dangerous to me. no he wasn't. he was decent but the performance was hyped up because it was a youngster making his debut. had exactly the same performance been put in by a more experienced player it wouldn't have been seen as "brilliant". oh and shola looked a better prospect whern he first broke through. That's really a matter of opinion. It was made MORE impressive due to it being his first game. Was still bloody good regardless. good,not brilliant and as i say, made more of because he's young than the actual performance warranted. Fascinating. isn't it. the way a perception of a performance can be altered because of who is doing it. No, i think its more fascinating that you are so offended by a 18 year old on his first senior performing so well.. (MOTM and standing ovation). Which leads to people saying we could have a really good player on our hands. Instead you would rather post say - 5 relies in the last 20 minutes - saying why his performance wasn't all that and that 'x' player was better blah blah blah'. offended ? i've said he had a good game, danny guthrie was the best player on the pitch for me. i've stated repeatedly that he's a good prospect and that recently i'd have had in the team instead of harewood. but i'm not going to go way over the top like some. oh and MotM is hardly reliable as you should know how many times it's discussed that the MotM awarded bore no relation to the game. if a player scores a hat trick he will generally be awarded it even if one was a pen ,one was a mis hit and the third was his only decent touch in 90mins. standing ovation for having a good game for a youngster on his debut seems fair enough.

depends on when. sometimes forwards do use too much energy chasing down stuff they shouldn't (can't say this of harewood mind who seems not to chase stuff he should)

Was a performance to be remembered too. Indeed, I remember how s*** he was And somehow manage to forget how s*** Ranger was in the first half against Leicester, or away at Peterbrough, or in a fair few of his sub apperances. Was brilliant the whole game against Leicester if I remember correctly. Most of his sub appearances have been under 20 minutes or so. He has had more time recently to be fair but he's still looked dangerous to me. no he wasn't. he was decent but the performance was hyped up because it was a youngster making his debut. had exactly the same performance been put in by a more experienced player it wouldn't have been seen as "brilliant". oh and shola looked a better prospect whern he first broke through. That's really a matter of opinion. It was made MORE impressive due to it being his first game. Was still bloody good regardless. good,not brilliant and as i say, made more of because he's young than the actual performance warranted. Fascinating. isn't it. the way a perception of a performance can be altered because of who is doing it.

not strictly true though was it. he wasn't hounded out by the fans and a lot of fans were, in my opinion, correct to voice concern about the drop in standards on the pitch from the season before.

Was a performance to be remembered too. Indeed, I remember how s*** he was And somehow manage to forget how s*** Ranger was in the first half against Leicester, or away at Peterbrough, or in a fair few of his sub apperances. Was brilliant the whole game against Leicester if I remember correctly. Most of his sub appearances have been under 20 minutes or so. He has had more time recently to be fair but he's still looked dangerous to me. no he wasn't. he was decent but the performance was hyped up because it was a youngster making his debut. had exactly the same performance been put in by a more experienced player it wouldn't have been seen as "brilliant". oh and shola looked a better prospect whern he first broke through. That's really a matter of opinion. It was made MORE impressive due to it being his first game. Was still bloody good regardless. good,not brilliant and as i say, made more of because he's young than the actual performance warranted.

I suppose it is kind of racism saying because you're not British you can't play football here. quotas of a similar ilk are in force in other sports.

Was a performance to be remembered too. Indeed, I remember how s*** he was And somehow manage to forget how s*** Ranger was in the first half against Leicester, or away at Peterbrough, or in a fair few of his sub apperances. Was brilliant the whole game against Leicester if I remember correctly. Most of his sub appearances have been under 20 minutes or so. He has had more time recently to be fair but he's still looked dangerous to me. no he wasn't. he was decent but the performance was hyped up because it was a youngster making his debut. had exactly the same performance been put in by a more experienced player it wouldn't have been seen as "brilliant". oh and shola looked a better prospect whern he first broke through.

f***s sake if thats the case we have to applaud whoever put the ball in for ranger to challenge, and whoever got the ball to him and colo for getting the ball wide etc etc etc. when in fact what you are saying is that in the run up to the goal he played a part, not even a touch, therefore the goal was down to him. favouritism at it's most pathetic blindness. Not really, im talking about a situation that i wouldnt expect most players to create in the first place. The only other whos done that is Carroll again. You're comparing that to passing, which is something all our players are capable of. Nor did i say that meant that the goal was solely down to him anywhere, i said he had a hand in the goal? And you're having a go at blindness Ive said several times he creates chances, explain how that isnt a situation of him creating a chance. you wouldn't expect him to create what ? he didn't create, he challenged for a ball that was close to him and it happened to fall that way. if we hadn't scored from it you wouldn't bring it up or at least give credit to everyone who touched the ball in that move regardless of who they are.

Xisco showed nothing at all, he cried on for games and the few chances he got he was fkn shocking, Nile has given his all worked dam hard for the team. Am not knocking Carroll but at the end of thier careers I think Ranger will be remembered as a much better player. quite possibly but not based on what they have actually done so far.

Utter bollocks and Carroll is nowhere near the player Nile is. obviously not based on first team performances.

So further up the page you're telling me that I'm wrong because no banners were confiscated, now you're telling me I'm wrong because JJ7 says they were. Brilliant. I'll say it again, If there is a policy now for the stewards to remove banners (as JJ7 has said they are) then it's more than likely as a direct consequence of the "Cockney Rapist" banner at the Peterborough game. Banners were being taken outside the ground before the Peterborough game and during the Peterborough game. The Cockney Rapist banner was taken at full time after about three or four others had been twocked so it's certainly f*** all to do with that. It's simply the stewards being c***s. what messages were on the other banners ?

fucks sake if thats the case we have to applaud whoever put the ball in for ranger to challenge, and whoever got the ball to him and colo for getting the ball wide etc etc etc. when in fact what you are saying is that in the run up to the goal he played a part, not even a touch, therefore the goal was down to him. favouritism at it's most pathetic blindness.

i've said this for a while and i would do away with seedings in the world cup/champs league,euro championships etc aswell. logistically it would be impossible for every club to start the FA cup all together but there is no reason why all 4 divisions and the conference couldn't all start in round 1.

that apathy is over 40,000 turning up for home games. as someone previously said all have had a massive negative impact on the club though it's maybe worth looking at the positions they took over in and allardyce deserves as much a mention as gullit. Ok that may be a bit of a generalisation, but there is a fair amount of apathy. Don't get me wrong, when we are winning and scoring I get just as into it as I always do, but when things go wrong, I just tend to find myself going numb to the situation and not reacting, and I get the impression a lot of people are that way. Maybe it's just me being older or whatever but I used to be devastated when things went wrong for us, nowadays I just tend to switch off and let it all out when things go well. that might be age and a few years of having little to play for as i've been like that for over a decade now.

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Well done the lads with the Cockney rapist banner, I'd imagine this is a direct result of it. Bollocks, 2 banners were shown in the LC before KO and weren't took. You'd think if they were enforcing a rule based on something which happened in the LC that they'd, I dunno, be inforcing it there? Perhaps it's only once the match has started? And you're being incredibly naive (surprise) if you think confiscating banners has nothing to do with the one in your sig. Banners were being taken away in Gallowgate before that one even went up. never saw any of that. what was on them ?

that apathy is over 40,000 turning up for home games. as someone previously said all have had a massive negative impact on the club though it's maybe worth looking at the positions they took over in and allardyce deserves as much a mention as gullit.

tomorrows journal "hughton fasils in £1million bid for aguero"

aye, fabregas's expansivness of the=is season seems to be at the expense of his positioning and ball winning of last.

is spear that much of a miss ? thought he had only broke through and looked very much a boy against men even at youh level.(i'm told)