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jonas will start

i have worn colours to sunderland in the past. however i haven't wore colours to any game in about 20 years

the gap,if thats what it was from jonas to the rest may have been to give given a sigth of the ball.

Don't be so sure about that, its more of a move from our bench to their bench. we dont need players who can beat 3 men but then keep the ball till they run it out or give it away. n'zogbia has loads of talent.....i'm not convinced he'll ever fulfill it. I'm not convinced that we'll sign anyone remotely comparable in January. i'm not gonna deny that

it was NE5.

we dont need players who can beat 3 men but then keep the ball till they run it out or give it away. n'zogbia has loads of talent.....i'm not convinced he'll ever fulfill it.

It seems we could be in a relegation fight. I just wouldn't like to risk it with him having no experience as a Manager. rewind 16yrs or so

cos he wasn't wearing stripes at the time.

outside the top 4 how many clubs have 1 or 2 players who truthfully 100% want to be there ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-bullingdon-club-when-gentlemen-fall-out-973702.html it's an interesting piece,starts off about the bullingdon club but the fun is about dueling. the reasons for (petty arguments and personal sleights),weapons used (swords,pistols and infected sausages !!). how about mick and NE5 at dawn by Milburn's statue in a battle to the death,armed with rolled up 1974 FA cup final programmes ?

When ratboy scored the first goal against us there in 2000 a kid ran the length of the pitch to try and get in our end with no intervention. As far as I can remember every goal they've score against us ther has seen some kids on the pitch. A few bairns celebrating a win would be fine imo (though annoying). "Hard" lads looking for bother as some did is worth comment after the number of repeat events. I was standing behind the goal when that Cateron scored and no one ran on the pitch. PS Cateron was not Ratboy I dont know what you're trying to achieving in sticking up for the mackems. Is it some sort of "ohhh i'm too clever and sophisticated so will rise above all this petty local rivalry and bickering" Give your knob a polish. was that the last game at joker park ?. pretty sure most,if not all the games at the stadium of tedium have had mackems on the pitch after they've scored.

91-92 season during and after the home defeats by brighton and millwall. i thought there was no way back after both those games.

watch it again in real time and watch how it dips and bends all over. catch one of those new balls right and it happens. even i've done it.

true

And Dalglish. Like I said, in the context of not having everyone fit or fully fit, this is far from the best we've had since we got into this league. Our first choice squad with everyone fit and playing well is decent enough. Look at the results under Dalglish and compare them to this side's efforts - we were never relegation material under Dalglish. We certainly are now, whether people like it or not. and dalglish's side may not have looked half as bad had shearer and asprilla not sustained leg term injuries early on in his first full season.

very true. the debatable points are.1).if he agreed to that structure in the first place..2) if those above him felt the need to step in for other reasons.

true he wasn't certain to score but he would have been clean through on goal. most experienced players would have done the same thing. That might be the case but the part you highlighted was probably the least important part of the post. Tsunami is right, Souness dismantled a midfield which had pace and energy in midfield. No surprise that a midfield of Duff, Butt, Guthrie and Geremi doesn't quite have counter-punching sting of Robert, Jenas, Dyer and Solano. true but is that all down to butt ? fwiw even i would drop him on tuesday but i don't think he's been anywhere near as bad as some are making out.

But before he'd had any impact on anything. did milne have any effect on anything. thats my whole point. each DOF has a differing remit from club to club. it may not be the role that is wrong but the personnel or the remit.

true he wasn't certain to score but he would have been clean through on goal. most experienced players would have done the same thing.

A win on Tuesday could make quite a big difference. for more than just points and league position.

How quickly this is forgotten. Theres 2 things that people seem to refuse to answer - what actually went on behind the scenes at this club? And whats the difference with the 'DOF signing players over the managers head with no apprent reason' (not my view of things) or a chairmen 'signing a player over the managers head with no apprent reason'? I'm very confident that we've experinced both sitautions yet one system is derided for this behaviour and the other is lauded as our saviour and the only option.... Milne wasn't really a DOF, he was more of a scout. Sir Bobby was in full control of buying and selling and had no-one but the chairman to report to. If people want to be pedantic, then we won 4 league titles under a DOF (Frank Watt) and numerous FA Cups. Lets not try and rewrite history here. thats why i also pointed out that probably every DOF at each club has a different remit. out of pedanticism i don't think wise was ever titled "director of football"

box lutons were all the rage for away games when i were' lad.

How quickly this is forgotten. Theres 2 things that people seem to refuse to answer - what actually went on behind the scenes at this club? And whats the difference with the 'DOF signing players over the managers head with no apprent reason' (not my view of things) or a chairmen 'signing a player over the managers head with no apprent reason'? I'm very confident that we've experinced both sitautions yet one system is derided for this behaviour and the other is lauded as our saviour and the only option.... my gues is that each DOF at each club has a differing remit from the others..

Spoken to him, have you? Didn't think so. The facts are none of us know exactly what's gone on, so we can't really point the finger with absolute certainty. Given the relative merits of Kevin Keegan and Mike Ashley, I'd be inclined to back the former in a straight choice, but it's just not that simple. there are other people in the past that have been crucified by you and others and you didn't ask him nor did you ask others if they had also asked them. You would look better not moving the goalposts rather than blatantly defend anybody who I disagree with, even when I have facts to back up my own comments. Faced with a choice between believing Keegan and Ashley, I'll take Keegan anytime if its alright by you. This is the worst squad and smallest squad of players we have had since 1992. We are in the s*** for one reason and one reason only, and that is because they owner of the club failed to make the choice to show ambition in keeping with what this club ought to do and is used to seeing, in backing his own appointed manager. why is it a choice ? i believe neither of them. to me the squad is very similar to roeders full season.

PSV fucked me yesterday.