madras

aye.......exciting isn't it

ferguson (i know it's not gonna happen but i mean not all british managers are shit)

the right one ,regardless of nationality.........however most of the best ones are foreign.

is he going to win much in the air ?

would his move be legal ? he joined arsenal in august and is only allowed one move per season.

this forum is negative because the populace in general is negative and cynical.

kev makes a late desperate lunge for the "worst poster" votes. too late kidda

you can find that out.....lazy git

Click on the image. cheers...i was right clicking and nowt helped. sorted now. usual oliver vagueness....someone who works for an agent who has an unnamed client ?

so who can tell me how to make it big enough to read ?

At our school, we had an annual chess competition called the Pugh Cup. True. at our school the chess pieces were placed in the orifices of those who played the game

You can say you're not interested inthe job without it being an absolute. Take Roeder for example. Shearer probably knows his own mind a bit better than Roeder, and sticks to his word. Traits that would make him a better manager than Roeder was. In fairness I have to agree with you on that - I'm convinced Roeder's attainment of 7th place was in no small part due to Shearer's influence on the team as co-pilot. I think results attest to that much, so maybe, just maybe, Shearer has what it takes to motivate and maintain discipline in a squad of players in a way Roeder clearly didn't at this level. That said, I would still prefer he went and managed Southampton or somesuch other club first. shearer,barnes and pearce would regularly take the training sessions during dalglish's reign aswell

i thought it was a horse race

really think you need to type it up for us

how was roeder the better tactician ? Every time we played Spurs he outwitted Jol and it wasn't by any kind of masterstroke either. Jol's tactics? Well, he had none. you meam both times under roeder....does that mean allardyce has been tactically out thought by billy davies and steve bruce to name but a few ? truth is spurs have been very poor on their travels (hey it happens look at citeh) and in our game last year at shite fart lane they murdered us in all butresult.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3033576.stm

at the right price

Oliver could get sacked over this if it's a lie and Mort goes to the editor with it. There is no way to prove it and I doubt Mort would lower himself to AO's snake like level. The man seriously is a shitbag. He and his paper have played as big a part in our failings as the likes of FS in my eyes. aye,righto

how was roeder the better tactician ?

ginola...as good if not a better first touch than bergkamp.

could it be evened up by the luck of wigan getting a player sent off up here when he shouldn't have been, milners fluke v mackems,milners complete mis kick V spuds that he then got on to, getting an equaliser v derby that wasn't deserved. forget the refs and wonder goals our play this season has been that bad we should count ourselves lucky to be where we are

People have really, really short memories concerning how horrible we were under Roeder. Compare yesterday to the corresponding fixture last year (0-1 to Man City) does anyone honestly believe that we played worse than we did then? I'm not talking about last night. Yeah for the first 30 mins we played some good stuff, but the rest of the match was on par with a Roeder performance. The Derby games were on par, if not worse, than anything Roeder served up, as were the Sunderland, Liverpool, Portsmouth, Wigan away, Reading away, Fulham away (even though we won). FFS we've only had 10 shots on target in the games against Fulham, Wigan, Reading, Liverpool and Sunderland put together. There seems to be a lot of blind faith going around that he will turn it around given time, but have you honestly seen anything to suggest he can? I'm not saying Roeder was a better manager, but at least you could see what he was trying to do (e.g. playing people in correct positions (majority of time), setting up 442 most matches, not just hoofing it long at every given opportunity, actually trying to attack teams, all with a ridiculous injury list). Another thing that really pisses me off is that pundits and armchair fans keep saying he's "dealing with a lot of injuries" and he "hasn't been able to put out a regular team". That is a load of bollocks. He's had plenty of opportunites to put out a settled team but he keeps chopping and changing because he has a new scapegoat every week. He's hardly had any injuries in comparison to previous seasons but the excuse still rolls out. You've changed your tune, it wasn't long ago you were on here defending Allardyce when people were pointing our problems out. I know. But wasn't that after the Reading defeat where people were going really overboard. We'd only lost a couple of games that we shouldn't have and people were already calling for his head, so I was levelling up the argument. I'm normally one of the more level headed and rational people on here and I'm normally all for giving people time... but in my opinion, he has now had enough time to at least show us that there have been improvements. But as things stand, there have been NO improvements (apart from the depth of the first team squad). The sad thing is, he's working with a better squad than Roeder aswell. And I now go to St James's on a match day expecting us to get turned over or maybe snatch something if we're lucky. thats why i always go on about performances.you can win games playing shit but it wont last. if we were in the top 4 after these performances i'd still be yelling that it isn't good enough (though probably not calling for his head..........yet!). if you get beat but play well consistently things will turn round...if you play shit and win consistently you'll get found out

Not exactly no. He'd taken over Pardew's side which had been flying the season before and led them to miss out on the play-offs too. The 11 games without a win was on the back of a time when we'd been playing ok, but Coppell hadn't really made that much of an improvement on Pardew's team. He'd paid a record fee for Bobby Convey who'd looked awful and only started a handful of games that season, he bought in Keown and Ferdinand to add some experience and that backfired and he'd let the club captain go to local rivals to be replaced by a raw free transfer from Brentford. At the time Coppell even came out and said he had no idea what was going on or how to fix it. Basically he didn't have that much good grace in the tank but credit where it's due John Madjeski, and pretty much most of the fans, stuck by him and he delivered. but how long should you stick by a manager who is taking you backwards.

the difference being when he led you on that 11 game winless run you could think that he had previously led you on a good run and maybe,just maybe played well once or twice...in that winless run there were maybe times when you could see some sort of improvemnet ?

a) i don't think we'll finish as high as 12th b)providing we avoid relegation i'll be quite happy with the manager if i can see improvement and cause for optimism. (which i don't on either point right now)