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Well? what ? He's good at saying the right thing, Kev like. Do you think he's going to say outright he didn't want Dennis Wise ? You know full well I'm on about him saying the funds were there if he wanted them. That we didn't buy anyone because he chose not to, rather than the board not backing him. no, I didn't. I hope he is telling the truth and not just saying the right thing although with good intentions. Yeah, cos we spent ages yesterday arguing about Wise. I hope he's telling the truth too. In which case your worries about the board would be incorrect. i'd very much doubt keegan would come out and say "the funding is there...just watch" which he has done...(not word for word i know)....if he didnt believe it was there. then we fall into parkys paradox....why would ashley buy nufc ,spend so much on it, naturally want to make money on it and the only to do that would be for nufc to be succesful which means significant investment on the playing side.

they are going through financila trouble right now so maybe someone owed cash and not happy ?

who do boro play in central midfield? rochemback and arca isnt it? hardly the most physical pair and neither spend a lot of time going on surging runs upfield. i think we can do without a defensive midfielder for this one so i agree. boateng,cattermole not been playing ?

those two could well take that literally

Spend big =/= spend well. You HAVE to spend big to attract the players who will be good enough to improve us. Again, the Barnes deal has proved that. would barnes have improved us ? i wouldn't have put him inour starting 11 and derby fans don't reckon he's kicked on since looking good last season in an easier league. i don't even think he has been an auto first choice for them this season so it just maybe that the powers that be didn't judge £3mill a decent price for his potential. as for spending etc and attracting players. man city seemed to do it at the start of this season. Man City had the advantage that although Sven seemed to be hated by England fans, he was still a manager players wanted to play for. Hopefully Keegan will have that still too. Barnes would certainly improve our midfield. Taking Emre, Butt, Barton, Geremi and Smith out of central midfield would improve any team. aye righto Ok, I'll put it another way. He's better than all of those. No disrespect Gol...but that's bullshit. Saying that he MAY turn out to be better is probably a fairer statement. All the players mentioned above (bar Smith) are full internationals (or have been) in that position on the field. Barnes is still a relative unknown in top flight football. Which of them do you currently rate as better players than Barnes? It doesn't matter how good they used to be (Geremi for one used to be fantastic in Spain), if they're s**** now, they're s**** now, simple as. Butt is useless - I struggle to see what he actually does. Emre needs shipping off ASAP, as he's done nothing for us since signing, other than a couple of wonder goals (sounds a bit like Martins). The only one who I'd keep is Barton, and I'm yet to see any football ability from him since signing (which is strange as he was so good at City). Barnes would get in the team in front of all of those players at the moment. Emre and Barton will offer us more now than Barnes will, the lad can't even get a regular start at Derby although he clearly has the potential to be a good player in the future. The same thing is said about Emre every single time he comes back from injury or suspension. The sad thing is, it's saying much more about how poor our midfield really is than how good Barnes is. Personally I think we should be looking at much better players than him, but if we signed him he'd certainly (in my opinion) be playing. Emre is a homer. He passes sideways, and just lends the ball to people and wants it back. Get rid as soon as we can get somewhere near our money back. woah there aad fella. lets see how emre fits into a passing team that will be encouraged to move and find/create space. not saying it'll work but i'm willing to see.

Spend big =/= spend well. You HAVE to spend big to attract the players who will be good enough to improve us. Again, the Barnes deal has proved that. would barnes have improved us ? i wouldn't have put him inour starting 11 and derby fans don't reckon he's kicked on since looking good last season in an easier league. i don't even think he has been an auto first choice for them this season so it just maybe that the powers that be didn't judge £3mill a decent price for his potential. as for spending etc and attracting players. man city seemed to do it at the start of this season. Man City had the advantage that although Sven seemed to be hated by England fans, he was still a manager players wanted to play for. Hopefully Keegan will have that still too. Barnes would certainly improve our midfield. Taking Emre, Butt, Barton, Geremi and Smith out of central midfield would improve any team. aye righto Ok, I'll put it another way. He's better than all of those. No disrespect Gol...but that's bullshit. Saying that he MAY turn out to be better is probably a fairer statement. All the players mentioned above (bar Smith) are full internationals (or have been) in that position on the field. Barnes is still a relative unknown in top flight football. Which of them do you currently rate as better players than Barnes? It doesn't matter how good they used to be (Geremi for one used to be fantastic in Spain), if they're s**** now, they're s**** now, simple as. Butt is useless - I struggle to see what he actually does. Emre needs shipping off ASAP, as he's done nothing for us since signing, other than a couple of wonder goals (sounds a bit like Martins). The only one who I'd keep is Barton, and I'm yet to see any football ability from him since signing (which is strange as he was so good at City). Barnes would get in the team in front of all of those players at the moment. butt,emre, n'zogbia would all be in centre mid before barnes right now.

whats "tyres" from spaced doing in your av ? *gasp* How very dare you! http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:B2s88cvEMWvANM:http://pics.livejournal.com/dcspanner/pic/0000101a/s320x240

Spend big =/= spend well. You HAVE to spend big to attract the players who will be good enough to improve us. Again, the Barnes deal has proved that. would barnes have improved us ? i wouldn't have put him inour starting 11 and derby fans don't reckon he's kicked on since looking good last season in an easier league. i don't even think he has been an auto first choice for them this season so it just maybe that the powers that be didn't judge £3mill a decent price for his potential. as for spending etc and attracting players. man city seemed to do it at the start of this season. Man City had the advantage that although Sven seemed to be hated by England fans, he was still a manager players wanted to play for. Hopefully Keegan will have that still too. Barnes would certainly improve our midfield. Taking Emre, Butt, Barton, Geremi and Smith out of central midfield would improve any team. aye righto

i wouldn't read much into keegan talking about players being fit etc. he's a regular one for saying such and such will be out for 3 weeks then playing him a day later.

Spend big =/= spend well. You HAVE to spend big to attract the players who will be good enough to improve us. Again, the Barnes deal has proved that. would barnes have improved us ? i wouldn't have put him inour starting 11 and derby fans don't reckon he's kicked on since looking good last season in an easier league. i don't even think he has been an auto first choice for them this season so it just maybe that the powers that be didn't judge £3mill a decent price for his potential. as for spending etc and attracting players. man city seemed to do it at the start of this season.

physio room has enrique out till 15th feb

whats "tyres" from spaced doing in your av ?

more than just the result's important here. keegan had 2 days before bolton (not much chance to do much though i did see a massive change in style) then arsenal away twice. sunday is really the first game where he's had time to affect things. heres hoping

always liked the looks of (i think) braga's ground and the place where the faroe isles play. with both, one end of the ground is just a sheer cliff face.

lol you wouldnt belive how much i wanna go. just scared summit gonna go wrong!!!it costs so much money to get off this shitty island wanna have a couple nights out too. i can imagine paying all this money to get off the island taxi to newcastle too late for friday night out then game gets canceled. ill of travelled all this way and money just for a sat night out !!! bbc weather says snow today,dry saturday,rain sunday. remember in britain 12 flakes is heavy sniowfall. get a train instead of a taxi(roads tend to shut before rails)

like kezman or kuyt ?

I would. It'd be all-out attack though. GO GO GO

thats bloody spiteful that is. putting a "cheers" just as the page changes so we have to chck the previous dull page to see what you are "cheers"ing at

the whole problem of this team is living up to their capabilities. emre tends to play well when coming back frominjury/off the bech. but whengiven a run doesnt fulfill

Bagsy squeezing that birds puss ridden face Imagine what you could catch getting head off of her. Probably her head! it looks rotten! no one mention that blokes face looks like it has spent some time close to THAT.

wouldn't be surprised to see.... . given carr taylor faye enrique milner n'zogbia emre duff owen viduka

ne5 if mort is a bean counter how is he going to make money back ashleys initial £250mill investment ? how much further do you think shepherds "speculation and risks" would ave taken us ?

Good post. It seems people are envious of Wenger's achievements at Arsenal yet don't want to see the same set up implemented here. Strange. Iz becoz we canna parayde dem lyek. If dey not heard of dem den they must be s*** innit?! seems like deja vue here. Under Souness we were told that it was fine to clear out the bad eggs because Alex Ferguson did, now we are being told its OK buying a load of 17 year olds because Arsene Wenger has. Quite incredible the complete rubbish that people get suckered into believing, and all because the fat b****** ate all their pies or something......... Not to mention, that Bobby Robson has been down the same path and didn't match Wenger ie Bramble, Ambrose, Viana, Gavilan, Cort, Cordone, Jeanarse, Lua Lua, Bassedas, O'Brien.............. his best buys for the club being Woodgate, Bellamy and Robert by a country mile. a big pile right there...and desperation to attack the new regime and defend Shepherd. Blatantly as well. FYI: Bramble, Ambrose, Bassedas, Cordone, Cort, O'Brien, LuaLua and Viana were not obscure 16/17 yr olds when they were signed. The only youth signings that Sir Bobby made were Gavilan, Bernard and N'Zogbia, and I'll add Jenas to that list to an extent. Bramble was a premiership player who finished 3rd with Ipswich. Bassedas was already a full Argentina international when he joined (and was 25?) LuaLua was acquired for over 2 million pounds, and was an established player in the first team of a lower division side Cort...we paid 7 million on him as he was also a premiership player at Wimbeldon O'Brien was a first teamer at Bradford (not sure if he played premiership football before they went down) Viana was young european player of the year Cordone was an unknown, but he wasn't a 17 yr old nobody If I'm not mistaken, bar Cordone (who joined on loan), the rest all cost AT LEAST a million pounds if not more. Jenas cost 5!!! What the board are doing now is plucking youth players to develop them here as part of the youth academy/reserve team. The players you mention ALL went into the first team squad. Still think you know your stuff LM...just think your argument here is a tad bit desperate and illogical. No one here is saying we don't need big players. We do. But in the meantime, if we cant get them for whatever reason, we might as well play our hand at grabbing whatever young talent we can from all over the shop, and take a chance. Haven't read the rest of the thread, so I don't know what else has been said. I'll crack on now and try and catch up interesting you talk about a big pile of s****. Because from where I'm sitting, the condemnation of a board who backed their managers and qualified for europe more than anyone else at any time in our history, more than any other team in the country bar 4, bought major international players instead of selling them, sold out the ground to 50000 people [who were actually attracted by something despite what you may "think"] is the biggest heap of absolute biggest s**** I've ever read. I am very pleased for you if you are happy with the ambition ie the transfer policy of the current board as against the old one. Because, you shouldn't be. Its been absolutely abysmal, and 2nd rate. End of. But that's not the point LM!!! What I'm saying is, if in the meantime we can't get those big players to come, what's the harm in bringing some promising prospects in parallel? Also, keep in mind that at the time you speak of, NUFC was a fashionable club, as you correctly point out qualifying for europe etc... We're a different proposition now, and are a club in turmoil. Until we steady the ship and have a clear path forward, imo we'll never attract big hungry players. We'll only be able to bring in mercenaries who've already done it all, living off of reputation and looking for one last pay day. I don't accept or believe we can't get the best players to come. I think any player worth their salt would want to play here. Our european standing and profile is also massively and totally superior in comparison to what it was, through qualifying regularly for europe, especially since 1992 when the old board finally took over and put the club on the right lines again. The judgement of a players character is down to the manager when he talks to him etc ne5 your first 3 words sum it up. as for getting the best players,always unlkey in the jan window (though to improve should be able to) oureuro standing etc mean nothing now. the one thing we have is spending power...if it is real and flexed come the sumer. convince one big money and the rest will follow if we want to spend. will it happen ?

OK ...you are now called "pizzle guzzler"

Dean Court thtas right bean court. was so severly hamered that day we still refer to how drunk as "on the bournemouth scale i was a 6"