madras

cahill.....................he's probably equal to others but none of those whinge as much when someone has glanced in their direction

agreed seconded

i disagree,yes babayaro was directly to blame for a goal,but he won the ball more than n'zog and gave it away less

good sign from martins,fighting nobby for the pen,he could have ducked out but wanted the responsibilty,good for him,who knows what he'd be like had he missed.

if people can make an argument for booing babayaro why didnt those same people boo n'zogbia,who was worse than babyaro tonight and as poor throughout the season or milner who gave nearly every ball away tonight ? have we got favourites or what ?

we played ok considering we had a very depleted team,then again it was reading at home.just about deserved the win in what would have been a great game for the neutral. for those who "booed" babayaro,do you think,mid game,it will help him play better,and did you boo n'zogbia and milner who played a damn sight worse than him ?

on three occasions the ref blew then looked (glared) at the milburn stand linesman for support.sibierskis disallowed goal and our penalty being two of the occasions.i'm as sure as i can be that the ref disallowed sibs goal for offside but after getting no backing from the linesman has had to come up with ana excuse. nowt wrong with sibs goal and never a penalty,evens out on this occasion.

in fact he could have not even said that and just thought it instead

we win tomorrow and we go above boro,they have few injuries,and always struggle after xmas.wonder if thir shitting it more than us ?

gather round children,are you sitting comfortably,then i'll begin. we six met up in the forth at midday,moved on to what was cushy's in the station ready for the 2pm train to the smoke.beers and cards on the train,into london for tea time.met up with one of the lads mates from coventry,toon fan,who was coming along with us,across london via several more drinkeries for another train to ramsgate in time for the midnight(i think) sailing to ostende. to this day i am unbeaten at ferrydancefloorfootball after nicking a ball from the kiddies ball pit.the game got a little rough and boisterous as the beer kicked in and the lax security by the bar staff made for a few freebies.into ostende very early to be met by the belgian ss complete with snarling dogs to "usher" 30 or so of us to the brussels train.brussels for the rush hour and we were a tad deshevilled.starting to feel the cold as we hadn't had a drink for about 2 hrs by this stage.the train to luxembourg was a commuter job and most of us dropped staright off to sleep only to be woke by the guard telling us the train splits at some point and we were in the wrong half.at this point we took stock around us,all bar us suited and ready for a day at the office and us,been on a 16hr bender,beer breath that ammounted to weapons grade halitosis.the last to wake of our number,slavver down his face,hair sticking up one side and after having just released a beery fart of such depth and thickness that it is rumoured still to be seeping around the low countries,turning milk and choking small animals,looked up at his neighbour,a very sober 50something gent "y'aareet marra...wherewu?" luxembourg was the coldest my body has ever known,licking a lamp post i couyld feel my tongue start to stick.so 4 of us headed to a bar(about 10am)and the rest to a strip joint.if it wasn't bad enough going to a strip joint at that early hour they made matters worse by getting chucked out after the owner let go 2 "viewers " sharing a booth ,then had to object after the commotion one of them created after his co-boother started pleasuring himself.i bought a sandwich(first food since midday previous)and recieved my change in 3 currencies!!then back on the train for metz. arrived just before dinner time and straight into a caff for alcahol.very pleasent.on leaving the caff about an hour later the first snowflakes were dropping and the temperature was starting to bite.further up into town,one or two geordie voices to be heard,watched some of the schalke game whilst drinking xmas beer outside.left a bar full of geordie geezers singing"peter reid's got a f***ing monkeys head" to find a quieter bar.the next place ,near deserted and the staff were a youngish (early to mid 20's) lad and lass.banter was cracking and she looked filthy(type of girl who would suck your shit to a point).they had a bar football table there and as the banter went on a couple of the lads challenged her "loser strips".i was her partner and she jumped on me every time we scored,my dilemma,try to win and have her jumping on me and kissing me,or losing and us both getting naked..............problem solved,she was a ringer and scored 9 to my 1,and the other 2 did strip,the cold doing little for their ego's! back to previous pub as it was on the way to the ground and the geezers hadn't moved,were getting their drinks brought to them and were now doing "a f***ing monkeys got a peter reid's heed" into the ground,1-1"le poof eric cantona","pogo if you love the toon" and a group of 2 lads and a lass taking foto's of a mackem season ticket,we asked what the story was,turns out the larger of the group had had an altercation with a mackem in cushys the previous staurday,after decking him he also took the aforementioned ticket and planned to take the item round europe with him and send pics back.we looked at the ticket and found it belonged to a work colleague of ours he can become a mr hyde after a drink or two. after the match we returned to the filthy girl pub but it was soon to shut,filthy went home but her co-worker took us to what he assured us would be the only place we'd be able to get a drink that late.i'm sure it was a gay bar but needs must when beer is called for.as the night went on more geordie voices were added and i've never seen as much powder in one place.off to the train station for direct return to brussles. two geordie voiced charvas came belting out the station,we thought nowt about it till 10mins later the local plod arrives and rather heavy handedly starts requesting a word with one of our lot.myself and one of the others were just coming back from the bogs as the train pulled in and a couple of the lads were "eyeing" us to just get on the train and get out".we did and felt bad about leaving them but the local plod,to their credit made the train wait but were adamant our friend had to accompany them to the station.his mate,the coventry mag,volunteered to stay with him as he spoke a bit of the lingo and i am forced to admit that unless le chien is actually sur or dans la table,then my french is poor.the rest joined us on the train and off we went. brussels in the rush hour again,giggled like a fool when a stranger who looked as bad as us approached,"aye".one of us said..he replied "aye,i'm fucked me like" before stumblimg off outside.what were the odds......pretty good it seems! quiet trip back,evenclubbed together to hire a berth on the ferry so we could have showers and freshen up a bit. the mrs,who until the previous monday had thought when i said "theres a match mid week" that i meant a home game,rang me to tell me she'd be out when i got back,so offies,chinkees and home just in time to watch fenerbahce beat man utd at old trafford. canny trip. ps the lad who was invited by the plod to accompany them was let go with an apalogy as the cctv showed it was the other 2 but all the cops had to go on was"an englishman in a yellow coat"...missed his train though and had to go to strasbourg and fly home for £300.

errr yes you can get a random drugs test wether you play or not,I understand he has had a test in the last couple of years.

can't believe the thread carried on beyond that.

that was for blackburn...look at this for reading............http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/o/card/england-barclayspremiership/odds/3385725x/sid/1113073

get into the spirit man lovejoy.....on this board if you don't like someone you can use the most tenuous connections to prove your right.

do bet 365 know something we don't ? http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/o/card/england-barclayspremiership/odds/3401773x/sid/1116551

I will mention that horrible night yes, the joint worst Newcastle experience for me along with Poyet at Wembley Quinn got 36 but I thought McGhee got 21, I'll check before I write about that. I remember McGhee didn't score for ages though when he first came and then they all started flying in. I thought we had the new Stanley Matthews after Gallacher's goal and performance against Leeds, but as with a lot of young players at Newcastle he just seemed to drift away to obscurity. Michael O'Neill is the classic example of that, and everyone who saw him at 18 thought he'd be a world beater. don't forget that mcghee goal V bradford,took on half their team in the last minute...how many missed that goal ??

i remember the yodeller,what about mad tommy(check my sig!!),the guru or the peanut aggro fella ?

ICF cup was replaced by the now known UEFA cup in 1971, Spuds were the 1st to win it under the new name. The difference between the two was simply the regulation was handed over to UEFA from ICF. So the difference is a governing body change, the format when we won it, and when you won it, was exactly the same. there were some other slight differences,qualification for example was limited to one-city-one club for the fairs cup(we qualified in 10th place,i think everton,man citeh and some london clubfell foul of this rule) at the time we won it a lot of people (revie and clough included)rated ujpest as the best team in europe.

Not embarrassed by his comments but doesn't mean to say I agree with them either. Both Newcastle and Spurs' attendances dived in their bleak years, both are currently getting near capacity attendances currently. I would be more embarrassed if I was a Blackburn or Boro fans who in the past couple of years have been playing Uefa cup football to half empty stadia in spite of concessionary ticket prices to attract a half decent team. That's embarrassing imho. How's it embarrassing? The UEFA Cup is shite, and boring, we're shite, have been for 3 years yet we've had two UEFA QF appearances, and one semi final appearance in that time. We're in the so called hardest group and we've pissed it. It's a joke cup for sides like Tottenham and Boro to get all giddy about, but we've fucked up so badly, we have no hope of CL football for a while. Hand on heart if we were rich enough to do without being in the UEFA Cup I'd be delighted if we weren't in it. It's a complete joke competition. In the UEFA Cup we've played about 40 odd games in 3 years, and lost two, us yes, only two. The fact is your smaller clubs your Tottenham's get all emotional about it as they never get in Europe anyway. What is embarrassing is a club taking only 400 to St James' Park for an FA Cup replay in 1999, and getting 17,000 in the Premiership one week against the likes of Villa and Wimbledon, and when a proper club plays you, there's 30 odd thousand at the Lane (4/12/93). The Uefa Cup a joke competition? Suppose Newcastle got fed up winning it? :roll: In the unlikely event that we win it, I will say exactly the same. It's been pure shite since 1997/1998 when they started ****ing on with letting second placed teams in the CL. We benefitted in 97/98 as it happens with CL football but so ****. When you've played in the UEFA Cup as much as we have, you will know, which is why I said the UEFA Cup is a tournament for nothing clubs like Spurs, Villa, Boro, Fulham to get all giddy about. We're 17th in the League, we end up in the group of death, and we win all our games with our reserves. You can kid yourselves all you like that beating the likes of Club Bruges is an achievement but it's not. Under-achievement for Newcastle in the UEFA Cup based on our turnover and transfer expenditure is not winning it. That sounds arrogant but it's true. Hand on heart of the sides in it right now, with the strongest XI's, only Sevilla are clearly a better side than us, which emphasises my point on what a true joke cup this is. Even Spurs are capable of the last 8 I feel which underlines all the above points. the champions league did have to change though,quite often the teams in the uefa cup were out performing the previous years chmaps in their domestic leagues.the uefa cup isn't a joke,it just isn't top quality. It's the biggest joke in football. Palermo, who are no where near the size of us, have never been in it in their history yet their chairman is on record as saying he'd be quite content if they get knocked out so they can concentrate on the league. When small clubs are showing this much contempt towards the competition, it just goes to show the people across Europe are sharing my sentiments. As for teams in the UEFA Cup out performing teams in the European Cup....so ****. It has always been the competition for the individual Champions of Europe, that's why it was initially called the European Champions Cup, which became the UEFA Champions League in 1992. It's never called the European Champions and 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed League. The reason all of Liverpool's, Madrid's, AFC Ajax, FC Bayern Munchen's successes were so special is, they not only proved they were the best side in their domestic competition but also against all the other Champions from the previous season. Say in 1985, when Everton won the league, (I'm not having a dig at Heysel here), but if that event hadn't of occured you think Liverpool should've been involved in the European Cup for the 85/86 season, because they were a better side? It's a joke argument. Rafa is right to point out in 2001 and 2004, the last 16 got a bit interesting, but that shit is few and far between. Look when we were in it after our 16 year absence it was class, we got on paper a tough Belgian side even though we pissed them, and in the SECOND ROUND end up against one of Spain's strongest sides, who eventually put us out on away goals, and if we'd won that we'd have had Parma, who were 2nd in Serie A, in the THIRD ROUND! That's the way it was always meant to be. Contrast that to our three opening opponents in 2004/2005, some suicide bombers from Palestine, Bnei Sakhnin, a side full of real life Borat Sagidyev's but with less talent, Tblisi and fuckin a side full of Greek waiters, Panionios, who ended up relegated!! Yet you can sit there and tell me the European format in it's present state is working??!?!?!!? Greed has killed it. It's been shite since 1999 on the whole, which also coiincided with the bigger nations have four CL sides instead of four. UEFA killed it, greed killed it, and to me anyone that says the CL should be for the best four sides in a country has no appreciation for how football was, and is a product of UEFA and Rupert Murdoch's greed. only saying that the competition,the old european cup was sometimes not as good as the uefa cup.putting in 2nd and 3rd placed teams was alright,surely playing italy's runners up is going to be better class than estonias champs. the league system doesn't add anything to the comp(either comop for that matter) and it should return to the 2-legged format.true enough that greed ruined it,but it's also true that that greed will help those teams pull away from us.

can't remember who it was but wasn't there a player a while back who doctored the stripes on his boots to make them look like the boots he was supposed(sponsored whatever)to be wearing.

Not embarrassed by his comments but doesn't mean to say I agree with them either. Both Newcastle and Spurs' attendances dived in their bleak years, both are currently getting near capacity attendances currently. I would be more embarrassed if I was a Blackburn or Boro fans who in the past couple of years have been playing Uefa cup football to half empty stadia in spite of concessionary ticket prices to attract a half decent team. That's embarrassing imho. How's it embarrassing? The UEFA Cup is shite, and boring, we're shite, have been for 3 years yet we've had two UEFA QF appearances, and one semi final appearance in that time. We're in the so called hardest group and we've pissed it. It's a joke cup for sides like Tottenham and Boro to get all giddy about, but we've fucked up so badly, we have no hope of CL football for a while. Hand on heart if we were rich enough to do without being in the UEFA Cup I'd be delighted if we weren't in it. It's a complete joke competition. In the UEFA Cup we've played about 40 odd games in 3 years, and lost two, us yes, only two. The fact is your smaller clubs your Tottenham's get all emotional about it as they never get in Europe anyway. What is embarrassing is a club taking only 400 to St James' Park for an FA Cup replay in 1999, and getting 17,000 in the Premiership one week against the likes of Villa and Wimbledon, and when a proper club plays you, there's 30 odd thousand at the Lane (4/12/93). The Uefa Cup a joke competition? Suppose Newcastle got fed up winning it? :roll: In the unlikely event that we win it, I will say exactly the same. It's been pure shite since 1997/1998 when they started ****ing on with letting second placed teams in the CL. We benefitted in 97/98 as it happens with CL football but so ****. When you've played in the UEFA Cup as much as we have, you will know, which is why I said the UEFA Cup is a tournament for nothing clubs like Spurs, Villa, Boro, Fulham to get all giddy about. We're 17th in the League, we end up in the group of death, and we win all our games with our reserves. You can kid yourselves all you like that beating the likes of Club Bruges is an achievement but it's not. Under-achievement for Newcastle in the UEFA Cup based on our turnover and transfer expenditure is not winning it. That sounds arrogant but it's true. Hand on heart of the sides in it right now, with the strongest XI's, only Sevilla are clearly a better side than us, which emphasises my point on what a true joke cup this is. Even Spurs are capable of the last 8 I feel which underlines all the above points. the champions league did have to change though,quite often the teams in the uefa cup were out performing the previous years chmaps in their domestic leagues.the uefa cup isn't a joke,it just isn't top quality.

not saying i want him to come here but i can see james beattie leaving everton in jan or the summer and picking up his decent southampton form

what size pockets you got like ? it's not a small scarf,might where it like a money belt till kick off.

Just take it with you! Put it in your pocket and just wave it when they walk out on the field scarf i hope

i haven't worn colours at a match since the late 80's,till sunday that was.may well take the scarf against reading,might depend on what type of collar i'm wearing for that.