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Would be if it were Crewe or Chesterfield but "big clubs" run the leagues now, not the other way round.

Any reason why this still wouldn't be allowed. I'm sure Spurs sign players after the deadline every year. Don't they normally say if the deal was agreed before the deadline it's ok ?

To be fair its not a million miles from Thavuvin coming to us apart from the fact Borini has already proven he is a middle of the road player in the prwm. Borini turned them down after the clubs had agreed. Thauvin came out with the usual "I want to stay" stuff ie "what else can I say if I want to get the full 10% of fee as I haven't asked for a transfer"

From the little I've seen I'd rather go Afobe than Austin.

Thing is, the Premiership governing body seem to revel in stuff like this (Shaw/Mitrovic) as they get a chance to stress "know your place".

Harsh, possibly. Stupid rule, probably. Understandle why he gave it, absolutely. As has been said on here it was one the softer side of red, but worse than your average yellow. Even Arsenal fans are saying it's harsh and the rule is pretty clear, compounded by the ref not applying the rule equally (and the sending off seemed to affect them more than us) Again, if Giroud had comitted that foul do you think he'd have been red'ed ?

What do you mean by pro Pardew ? Those that think he's a bog standard prem manager as opposed to those who think he's not good enough to manage The Balloon.

No, but it doesn't mean it wasn't dangerous. I don't get why there's such an argument about it. Vast majority of pundits and NUFC fans can see why he gave a red. It's not like it's an outrageous decision. I personally think it is a red. Can see why people think it's soft, but to hear people say "never a red" is ludicrous when basically 95% of all coverage of it has agreed that it was probably the right decision. A... Do you think it would have been a red had Giroud done it ? B....Do you think there was intent ? a) some days yes, some days no. Don't think anyone can say either way for sure. b) No, but it's already been established that they don't take that into account. Have to say I think your wrong. Look at every tackle in isolation like that and you can buiold a case. Colback was fouled at shin height with no attempt at playing tha ball, foul, no booking, it's letter of the law some times, not at others (and today that was obvious) not helped by by a ref who gave 2 bookings because someone told him to. The Colback tackle was shin height but not particularly dangerous (although probably should have been a yellow). Mitrovic's was studs down the shin and onto the foot. Look, all I'm saying is it's hardly the outrageous decision that some are making out. You put all 10 PL refs in a room to watch that challenge and I can almost guarantee you that at least 8 or 9 of them give reds. I'm backing this up based on Howard Webb and Graham Poll's comments after the game - both of which said it was a red card offence. I COMPLETELY agree that there's issues with consistency, but as a stand alone incident it's so obvious why it was a red card. I'd bet if Webb and Poll saw Giroud do that they wouldn't say it was a red. I'm not saying that as a big club bias thing, more that he wouldn't be a marked man.

Why not, they say to hit the deck if even looked at in the box ? It's a horrible, horrible game at this level, only my partisanship keeps me involved.

No, but it doesn't mean it wasn't dangerous. I don't get why there's such an argument about it. Vast majority of pundits and NUFC fans can see why he gave a red. It's not like it's an outrageous decision. I personally think it is a red. Can see why people think it's soft, but to hear people say "never a red" is ludicrous when basically 95% of all coverage of it has agreed that it was probably the right decision. A... Do you think it would have been a red had Giroud done it ? B....Do you think there was intent ? a) some days yes, some days no. Don't think anyone can say either way for sure. b) No, but it's already been established that they don't take that into account. Have to say I think your wrong. Look at every tackle in isolation like that and you can buiold a case. Colback was fouled at shin height with no attempt at playing tha ball, foul, no booking, it's letter of the law some times, not at others (and today that was obvious) not helped by by a ref who gave 2 bookings because someone told him to.

No, but it doesn't mean it wasn't dangerous. I don't get why there's such an argument about it. Vast majority of pundits and NUFC fans can see why he gave a red. It's not like it's an outrageous decision. I personally think it is a red. Can see why people think it's soft, but to hear people say "never a red" is ludicrous when basically 95% of all coverage of it has agreed that it was probably the right decision. A... Do you think it would have been a red had Giroud done it ? B....Do you think there was intent ?

and be a "big club".

Stokes red cards at least make you think it's just crap refereeing as opposed to big club bias.

true, watching back on tv his seems deliberate.

Barely made contact, you need your eyes checking. You need your eyes checking mate. It's just not a Red Card. Costa/Rooney do that - they ain't getting sent off. Yeah f***ing right, studs up on ankle is a red card. only with intent, if not every badly timed challenge is a red.

Spent the day biting my tongue, I'll wait till I see it closer,. Verdict...Mitrovic was sent off on his reputation, Marriner had a shocker.

I was being sarcastic.

Going to let them join when it turns ?

"Obligation to buy"

I'd go Krul Janmaat Taylor Mbemba Hidara Wijnaldum Anita Sissoko De Jong Perez Mitrovic Think we'll see Krul Janmaat Colo Mbemba Haidara Colback Anita Sissoko Wijnaldum Thauvin Mitrovic.

No wingers, what about Alvarez and Jackninny ?

shits and giggles ? could be their nicknames!

All the more reason to put him in the window ?

This has a different feel about it this time, new manager bounce not going to work Can Fat Sam bounce ?

that'll mean the likes of Vuckic and Bigirimana then Not necessarily. We could bring in Darlow, Tiote, Williamson, de Jong, Thauvin, Aarons, Cisse and Sissoko for eight changes. Didn't have the bottle to use the G word did ya ?