madras

some trust neither.

he had a chance to rectify his mistakes when he appointed KK again but didn't support him. I imagine quite a lot of people have supported Newcastle for many years, watch them every game home and away, and aren't about to stop So what mistakes had he made before appointing Keegan? what planet do you come from ? So you can't think of any, then? malandro listed some. Paying big wages and moaning about it later too. What do you think of him losing KK and what do you think of the quality of our recent signings, on long contracts Ashley's first big mistake was appointing Keegan manager. Recent signings weren't bad at all, given the circs, and none of them are on particularly long contracts. Allows them a chance in the PL, with a two years left on the contract if we want to sell them on at that point. No, Ashleys mistake was not in appointing Keegan, but in the shameful, deceitful way he treated him. How can anyone trust him or believe a word he says after that? I'd say Keegan was the one who it's difficult to trust. It's interesting that there doesn't seem to have been a stampede for his managerial services, since he left. or any idea of the players he wanted that the club said no to..............except zalyatte (?)

2 singles. liverpool back anderlecht lay.

he gets stick because when he first broke into the team he could do nothing but challange for the ball in the air..............since then he's came on very nicely but many are loath to admit they may have got it wrong.

when did boredeaux start wearing red and white. i thought olympiakos had won last night after watching but not hearing SSN in the pub.

Rome was already built, but someone was fiddling while it burned. to complete the analogy, the fire had already started.

to be fair he was given big gaps inside and he took them. also he look to drift in behind loven a couple of times on lovens check backs to avoid drifting offside......clever movement.

i said he had a good game.

I'm guessing exactly the same. then lovenkrands wouldn't have played very many games, pretty sure Hughton would've played Shola and Carroll up front. not if it didn't work. credit where it's due man, he's dropped smith and butt as it wasn't working.

excuses. Come on, man, we genuinely look like 2 completely different teams at home and on the road. Christ knows what rubbish they're being told. maybe nolan isn't as unfit as you reckon...maybe he is told to save his energy for getting into the box ? unlikely ?, about as likely as guthrie receiving instructins to lay it safe in away games.

bloody right its no surprise as we have an extra man going forward (as opposed to butt or smith sitting on our centre halves toes) and lovenkrantz making intelligent movement.

excuses.

was good against a very poor opposition. fantastic is going a tad over the top.......................nolan looked decent against this lot and gutierrez coukd take everyone on. carroll deservedly MOTM, scared the life out of them,then routledge .

and they've all played better than barton in the past 2 seasons..

all you said was midfielder...gutierrez plays in midfield.

doubt it. some of gutierrez performances for argentina beat anything i've seen barton do.

wages maybe closer to 50% of turnover but that will mean little if he uses any excess to pay his loans back before the club is ready. I agree he has a lot to prove next season, like I said he has to spend some cash in the summer, we can't expect huge sums to be spent but he has to buy quality and replace the likes of Butt and Nolan. And yes he has to hold back on getting some of his loans back but nobody can predict what he'll do, but the question is, is mike ashley steering Newcastle in the right direction, I can't see how the answer can be no. At the very very best, if all you (and they) say is true and he's making the tough financial decisions to sort us out and the past year has been beneficial in terms of cost cutting, then I think the most you could say would be that he's put the brakes on our decline and there's a lot more work to do to start moving in the right direction. I don't believe that's the case though because, as I've said, the debt has been increasing at a far greater rate since Ashley arrived (and continues to do so). If we go up all The Ashley supporters are insisting he'll spend the money needed to keep us up....undoingh all the "good work" he's done bringing down costs. It's a logical fallacy. does that mean i have escaped being labelled an ashley supporter ?

surely it should be about what he would bring to the team. talent is pointless if it can't be transferred onto the pitch.

at man city he had a couple of very good seasons, he rightly got towards the national squad..........since then he has been very poor overall, when fit or not. his performances this season are as bad as anything i've seen in my time watching nufc.

The 10 Keegan games aside - he also showed his talent under Kinnear vs Villa and WBA. Two games we both won and he played a big part in it. he had 2 or 3 really good game sunder keegan (could be as much that the whole team played well) the rest of the games he played OK but looked better as it was a massive improvement on his previous form.

it's got little to do with who has talent as much as who plays better when they get the chance and barton has massivly underperformed in his time here. in fact bartons performances for us at the start of the season were worse than anything put out by smith or butt.

This. Can't wait to see him back on the pitch. Easily our most talented midfielder. not based on anything he has done in a black and white shirt.

enrique................i've seen no evidence to make me suspect he isn't the best player in this division.

wages maybe closer to 50% of turnover but that will mean little if he uses any excess to pay his loans back before the club is ready.

is this confirmed or should some dash out to put lots of money on it ? Get your house on it if you still can not while chris coleman is alive.