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No doubt behind the Ranger fiasco too! :angry:
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Looks like they've stopped his medication......................
thomas replied to ianovthetoon's topic in Football
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Well fuck, I guess someone will go for him. Will admit I didn't consider the goal hanger angle, but I suppose it makes sense. With Ronaldo leaving they may need to rely on someone for the last 20 or 30 minutes of target practice to pick up a goal, and he has a knack for being in the right spot. Breaking down teams parking the bus doesn't require the things he's missing anymore.
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6 words and an entire article extrapolated about it, but does anyone know what interview that quote came from. Press over-reaction as usual then I'm sure we could cliche our way to worse ... "Disgraced winger Jonas Gutierrez has unleashed a scathing condemnation of Newcastle's failure to maintain top flight status. His blast also serves as a desperate 'come and get me' plea to the premier league and we understand there will be no shortage of suitors for the mercurial Argentinean. This is just the latest in a string of high profile public statements from toon stars upset at dropping a league."
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When he had those ridiculous cornrows, all I could see was Matthew Lillard from Hackers
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_5410949,00.html Really shows how far his stock has fallen. The clubs that can afford him can also afford better, the clubs that he might improve can't afford him or even take the gamble. Be really surprised if he finds anything domestic.
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6 words and an entire article extrapolated about it, but does anyone know what interview that quote came from.
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Shades of Boumsong in that pic tbh :lol:
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Fucking get sold already. Tired of this. I was tired of this 4 weeks ago. :tickedoff:
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Three things really do play in Freddys favor here, for someone to select him. 1) He was available. No need to headhunt for someone to do this role. 2) He wants back in. Bitter about the way things went down. 3) He's done it before. Fine, he might have relied on McKays judgement too much and he might not be the most liked, but his rolodex probably has a lot more numbers than most still floating around in it and he knows the club.
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Which is also a huge positive, as far as I'm concerned. The mans ambition has never been in doubt, but there have been a number of key gaffes, notably most of the entire post-SBR period and key bits right before it, that do make me question his decision making. If there's another board to answer to that can keep him in check I won't be so worried.
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If there is an interested buyer, the psychologically battle will be between them and Ashley and very little to do with the club. You need to think about it in these terms. It's like a poker player slowly running out of chips, you start playing bluffs when you know they don't have the financial muscle to call any longer. My whole thing is that waiting until it falls apart is, in my mind, waiting until things like players leave (nonpayment/fed up/all request transfers), staff is gutted (sounds like it's already happened), fan dissatisfaction(nothing new) and an even further plummetting of our already low standing in the game amidst the chaos we're currently embroiled in. These things aren't all easily transferred into £ amounts and could end up costing a new owner a lot more than whatever they save by waiting for it. There's probably a sweet spot where the two lines cross, I just have no idea where it is.
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I would have demanded paisley themed reupholstering of all sjp seats tbh
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Fair enough. We could be being courted by people who want to buy a club in the worst possible condition. I admit I hadn't thought of that, chiefly because it's completely fucking mental to assume that.
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let me dumb it down a shade for you then buying something abysmally broken and derelict for cheap = NOT GOOD IDEA buying something that needs work but actually works = MUCH BETTER IDEA IN COMPARISON
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Ok. If it's shite it's shite, but the point still stands that waiting to buy a car the floor is rusted out, the tires are bald and the transmission is shot makes no sense in comparison to buying it in an earlier, more workable condition.
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Might it not be common sense to see if the club shifts most of the 70m wage bill? Or do you think a new owner is just going to take that on as well? That's not quite what you said though, is it? You said they should "sit back and wait for things to get worse" as it would strengthen their hand. Waiting to see who or what gets shifted doesn't make sense as all transfers have been suspended, haven't they? Has time stopped? I thought transfers begun on July 1st? Sorry, was only speaking about our clubs transfers. Can't be arsed to find the articles online, they're probably linked somewhere in this thread, but all incoming or outgoing Newcastle transfers have supposedly been put on hold.
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Might it not be common sense to see if the club shifts most of the 70m wage bill? Or do you think a new owner is just going to take that on as well? That's not quite what you said though, is it? You said they should "sit back and wait for things to get worse" as it would strengthen their hand. Waiting to see who or what gets shifted doesn't make sense as all transfers have been suspended, haven't they?
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Your deliberate attempts at negativity get more ridiculous with each passing day.
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Leaving it another few weeks means our best players will leave, we won't have enough time the remove most of the shit high earners from the side (meaning a shit unmotivated side and the huge wage bill staying in place) and we may not even be able to get a decent manager. It would probably end up costing the new owners more then they could possibly save on the price of the club. Plus they have competition which makes a waiting game even more dangerous. Most of those are the problems of the current owner. Why should a prospective owner give a fuck if it means strengthening his hand. Without new owners MA will be doing all he can to reduce the wage bill anyway. I don't see huge competition for the ownership of NUFC sorry. Explain why buying a worse product for less is a better idea than buying a good product for more? The only concern of someone buying the club is not just getting the most cut rate/discount price possible. If it was, then yes, they'd wait until the club was half a step from administration before jumping in with the lowest possible offer. But what would they really be getting for their frugality, and would we want owners like that? The worse a state the club is in when it is bought means more effort on the part of the new owners to rectify this. Nothing is truly saved, nor is their hand strengthened ANY, by waiting until the club is worth nothing before buying. Why not wait till admin or receivership or when MA just runs out of cash/goodwill? "Why not wait ..." to do what, exactly? What question are you even asking here?
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Leaving it another few weeks means our best players will leave, we won't have enough time the remove most of the shit high earners from the side (meaning a shit unmotivated side and the huge wage bill staying in place) and we may not even be able to get a decent manager. It would probably end up costing the new owners more then they could possibly save on the price of the club. Plus they have competition which makes a waiting game even more dangerous. Most of those are the problems of the current owner. Why should a prospective owner give a fuck if it means strengthening his hand. Without new owners MA will be doing all he can to reduce the wage bill anyway. I don't see huge competition for the ownership of NUFC sorry. Explain why buying a worse product for less is a better idea than buying a good product for more? The only concern of someone buying the club is not just getting the most cut rate/discount price possible. If it was, then yes, they'd wait until the club was half a step from administration before jumping in with the lowest possible offer. But what would they really be getting for their frugality, and would we want owners like that? The worse a state the club is in when it is bought means more effort on the part of the new owners to rectify this. Nothing is truly saved, nor is their hand strengthened ANY, by waiting until the club is worth nothing before buying.
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Just replace all smileys with until this mess is finished. Threads won't make any less sense.
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I'd cry if I could.