Wullie

The best thing I can say about him is that he has a history of resigning instead of hanging around for money. Can only hope he'll do one in October like he did at Forest after utterly stinking the place up for three months.

Absolutely chronic.

It's this regime. Anyone who gets into bed with them is instantly tainted and that will always be the case.

I work there so I've been asking around for a few months, general consensus is he was the best they've had and going to the match was enjoyable. I sound like I'm backing this appointment in here, I'm not, but he'll get the benefit of the doubt from me, he's done enough to warrant that imo. They were on the pitch throwing season tickets at him months before he left. Can't believe you're back on board with a bloke who's just had the bullet from Derby and Forest. I certainly won't be back while he's here. I must be speaking to different people, either that or they're lying? Define back on board, I won't be setting foot in SJP until Ashley leaves. I'll be watching the games again, is that back on board? Glad to hear it. Hindsight perhaps? Rose tinted view because of the cup? He was extremely unpopular by the end, mainly for his horribly negative football. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/onthisboroday-2006-irate-boro-fan-8573275 http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/bernie-slaven-steve-mcclaren-wasnt-6914404

I work there so I've been asking around for a few months, general consensus is he was the best they've had and going to the match was enjoyable. I sound like I'm backing this appointment in here, I'm not, but he'll get the benefit of the doubt from me, he's done enough to warrant that imo. They were on the pitch throwing season tickets at him months before he left. Can't believe you're back on board with a bloke who's just had the bullet from Derby and Forest. I certainly won't be back while he's here.

Not sure Derby had the best squad in the championship A damn sight better than a few of the sides who finished above them though.

Yeah but they aren't one of them. The Eredivisie is the real star on his CV, to win that with Twente. His cup runs don't mean anything more to me than Graeme Souness's do. Don't forget that he went back later though and flopped big time.

Most Boro fans I know couldn't wait to see the back of him.

He was still employed by us when Everton approached us to take him to Everton. Didn't realise that, thought he was one of the million staff that Ashley had to pay off.

Can't see Round coming back after Ashley gave him the push under Allardyce.

I only tended to see them when it was on Sky when it actually mattered, twice against Boro, against Wolves towards the end of the season with both after a play off place, and in the derby against Forest. They were startlingly bad in all four games. Suspect there was a hint of the flat track bully about them. They should have beat QPR in the play off the year before like.

Why was Clough sacked then? You can't have it both ways like. Didn't realise I was trying to. Clough is s**** and had the club in a falsely poor position. That doesn't make McClaren good enough to manage Newcastle United. Fair enough. I thought you were arguing that McClaren somehow owed any success he had at Derby to the 'positive' foundationa laid by Clough. I see how it could have read that way. Clough's only had Football League jobs cos of who his dad was imo.

Why was Clough sacked then? You can't have it both ways like. Didn't realise I was trying to. Clough is shite and had the club in a falsely poor position. That doesn't make McClaren good enough to manage Newcastle United.

I happen to think Derby's initial rise says more about Clough than it does about McClaren

I'm sure the club go out of their way to employ people who have wronged NUFC just to annoy me. The FA should have charged Boro for calling that game off and this cunt would have been first up in the dock.

Ah fuck.

i feel very similar to you in that last season i was dreading games and wasnt bothered about going but on the flip side i love the socialising with my family and i love supporting my team. i sing, i shout, i get annoyed and nothing beats the feeling of us scoring and i would hate that not to be a part of my life anymore as it has been since my dad took me when i was 5 years old (im 30 now). I completely understand people not wanting to go because of personal feelings towards those in charge and such like - and great, thats the way you want it so get on with it but i, like many others will still go and would still go even if we were in the conference Your last sentence is disingenuous. Most of the people who have walked away would still go in the conference if everyone at the club was trying their best rather than imposing a deliberate glass ceiling for financial reasons. I'm a similar age to you but my feeling when we score is complete and utter indifference. A goal is a means to an end. When that end is more money for Mike Ashley and nothing else, I can't get excited.

Are you only allowed an opinion on NUFC if you're giving Mike Ashley money like?

You can add the majority of the players to the list. There's almost nobody at the club who was employed with merit as the primary consideration.

Depends how you define the end of the world. He'll probably ensure Premier League safety by playing an incredibly dour brand of football. To me, that's worst case scenario and means more years in the wilderness for me as a Newcastle fan. That's what we had. Ashley has found his new Pardew to do the same job.

If we were actually going to give a chance to a sacked Championship manager, the bloke at Brentford is the one to go for, given their standing compared to a big club like Derby. McClaren is a soiled mattress.

You must feel that Derby have made a catastrophic mistake in sacking a manager way above their current station then? I don't. I'd rather roll the dice with someone like Clement ten times out of ten instead of a proven loser like McClaren.

You liked Chris Hughton didn't you? He failed to get Birmingham promoted (before they went to shit), Rodgers failed to get Reading promoted....pretty sure there'll be other examples. I'm sure there's enough reasons to oppose his appointment but I think this is a poor reason. Why don't all Premier League clubs do their managerial shopping amongst the Championship mid-table then? You can't hire a manager just sacked by a Championship side and claim it's anything other than outrageous negligence, again. Would Everton, Spurs, Southampton hire this mug? Why aren't West Ham absolutely battering his door down? Like Pardew, he is seriously damaged goods, with good reason.

He did so fantastically well with Derby that they sacked him. It usually transpires that a lot of the managers who come up from the Championship aren't good enough for the Premier League. Our fans are busy trying to convince themselves that one who couldn't even manage the play-offs is good enough for Newcastle United. Christ.

Nah, they're all tomorrow apart from Molde, who won 4-0.