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Hatem: 'I'm Back To 100 Per Cent' 'I'm really happy that now it's all over and I can get cracking' http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20110706/hatem-im-back-to-100-per-cent_2281670_2387607

Christ on a bike, Nike.

we don't need a squad, if they're not starting every week get them off the wage bill :facepalm: :facepalm: Did you read it? Genuine question, because that is not what is being reported. Pardew - "It is about accepting your role in the squad. We have players like Joey Barton and Fabricio Coloccini who will be expecting to play every game. But we also need players who will need to make competition for places below that group. Some may not see a lot of football. It is up to them if they are prepared to stay and be in that role – or move on." noises that these players were available for sale have been around for weeks now, dont you think pardew would have had the conversation with them BEFORE these leaks if those comments were genuine? can you read that? I can read 'the Chronicle understands', and would happily dismiss it more often than not. In this case though it has been fairly clear for the past 6 months or more that that was the case with Routledge, and I would tend to say that I don't believe he should have a long term future at the club either. Nevertheless, Pardew is clearly stating he wants squad depth, not as you suggest, if 'they're not starting every week get them off the wage bill'. There's no point keeping a backup squad player if they are expecting a game every week. That is all he seems to be saying. If those players are happy to stay under those conditions, great. If they want first team football, then they may have to move on. Neither scenario negates Pardews quote saying that we need competition below the first team.

we don't need a squad, if they're not starting every week get them off the wage bill :facepalm: :facepalm: Did you read it? Genuine question, because that is not what is being reported. Pardew - "It is about accepting your role in the squad. We have players like Joey Barton and Fabricio Coloccini who will be expecting to play every game. But we also need players who will need to make competition for places below that group. Some may not see a lot of football. It is up to them if they are prepared to stay and be in that role – or move on."

FFS! So now if we hadn't sold our No 9 then not only would we have had no budget this summer but none next January either. Ha, Llambias clearly taking notes from my post earlier. Hold some back to allow us to be first in line if someone unexpectedly comes on the market. Good lad.

Hopefully France. Bothe really good goals tonight.

It's what I'd do. Considering it looks like we'll be playing one up front, any striker has to be good enough and mobile enough to interchange with other attacking players, otherwise we'll need to bring in a lesser player happy to sit on the bench and wait for Ba to break down.

It's difficult to spin that positively. /though... at least we were in for them.

Ultimately we've had six months to decide what to do with at least £30m of allegedly unexpected income, with the benefit of what some seem to say is the world's best scout and a manager who apparently has the full backing of his manager and the club owner. And yet here we are, with people happy to 'hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities, if there are any'. If we're so hard up that we needed to sell our best striker and most promising talent for big money just to pay wages and to afford to bring in couple of free transfers, it makes you wonder if they'd fully intended on flogging Carroll all along. And if that is the case, who's next out of the door? Why are you taking the 'hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities, if there are any' quote to task? Do you disagree with it? Do you disagree that having an influx of money might allow us to jump on unanticipated oportunities if they come up towards the end of a window, that we might not ordinarily be able to stretch to? If we've had a significant amount of money to spend for 8 months I'd have expected us to be finished our spending by the first game. Sounds great, and we are clearly trying to do that with players tied up before the window even opened, and the next signing in hopefully before we hit America according to Pards. But if we're prudent and a domino of transfers means a top player becomes available to us late in the window and we're able to stretch to him, that woldn't be a bad thing, right? It would be a good thing if he was a good player/good price etc, but I'd have hoped we wouldn't need to be doing this. We start with some hard games and ideally we should have our best players signed and ready for those games. I don't think we will be in a position to 'need' to do it (unless there is an unexpected departure), as Pardew says, we hope for two more attackers, one before the tour, one after. But I'm hoping the windfall means a greater flexibility, especially if it allows us to hold some back to move quicky if an opportunity arrives when the general scramble happens late on.

Ultimately we've had six months to decide what to do with at least £30m of allegedly unexpected income, with the benefit of what some seem to say is the world's best scout and a manager who apparently has the full backing of his manager and the club owner. And yet here we are, with people happy to 'hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities, if there are any'. If we're so hard up that we needed to sell our best striker and most promising talent for big money just to pay wages and to afford to bring in couple of free transfers, it makes you wonder if they'd fully intended on flogging Carroll all along. And if that is the case, who's next out of the door? Why are you taking the 'hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities, if there are any' quote to task? Do you disagree with it? Do you disagree that having an influx of money might allow us to jump on unanticipated oportunities if they come up towards the end of a window, that we might not ordinarily be able to stretch to? If we've had a significant amount of money to spend for 8 months I'd have expected us to be finished our spending by the first game. Sounds great, and we are clearly trying to do that with players tied up before the window even opened, and the next signing in hopefully before we hit America according to Pards. But I don't know outside of that what you're getting at. If we're prudent and a domino of transfers means a top player becomes available to us late in the window and we're able to stretch to him, that wouldn't be a bad thing, right?

They work them too hard.

Because we seemingly are using the money of his sale to pay off other players wages. Simple. Not really what I was going at though. This on the other hand: "And yet here we are, with people happy to 'hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities, if there are any'. Honesty man, what is wrong with my quote? We have done our planning and played the window well, but having the extra cash also might allow us take advantage of players coming onto the market we might not have anticipated.

If we are a stronger, better team next season, how will it resonate with you? i'll be very happy if we're a stronger and better team, i try my best to separate this sort of thing from my actual enjoyment of watching the team play and i'm as positive as the rest when it come to the actual football. tends to irk me when i think someone's taking libs though Fair enough then. I still am pissed off with losing Carroll, but that's me being pretty sentimental. I think the only way to judge losing a player like him (and Nolan of course) is on the state of the team the following seasons. If we don't go backwards, and hell, the team actually not only goes in a different direction stylistically, but also moves forwards, then yes whatever money they brought in (or was ultimately spent), it was a good decision. If Ashley is cutting and running, it's all a fire sale and we end up in the shits, then there will rightly be hell on.

Ultimately we've had six months to decide what to do with at least £30m of allegedly unexpected income, with the benefit of what some seem to say is the world's best scout and a manager who apparently has the full backing of his manager and the club owner. And yet here we are, with people happy to 'hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities, if there are any'. If we're so hard up that we needed to sell our best striker and most promising talent for big money just to pay wages and to afford to bring in couple of free transfers, it makes you wonder if they'd fully intended on flogging Carroll all along. And if that is the case, who's next out of the door? Why are you taking the 'hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities, if there are any' quote to task? Do you disagree with it? Do you disagree that having an influx of money might allow us to jump on unanticipated oportunities if they come up towards the end of a window, that we might not ordinarily be able to stretch to?

If we are a stronger, better team next season, how will it resonate with you?

Would be lovely, can't see it though. /Smith OOT please!!!

And the other guy is part of the coaching staff by the looks of it. - That's one of the Fitness coaches, he's mates with someone on here! Richie Arkenheed, or something, is his name. He's also a Mackem. Mackem fitness coach? Explains a lot of last seasons problems.

Fair point. Only maybe Ba out wide in a 4-3-3. Think this is the problem with who we bring in. If we do play one up front, the second striker with Ba has to be able cover the other forward positions or simply sit on the bench waiting for the other to get injured. That doesn't sound like Bentner.

We'll never know exactly, but seems as reasonable as any mate. As has been pointed out though, there's still the question of why that £35m wouldn't be topped up with whatever money we would have put aside for transfers this summer anyway? Wished someone would have pushed Pardew on that last night. That said, maybe there has never really been a pot as such. We just find money if the opportunity arises form that clubs overall resources.

Pardew said not to question where the £35m has disappeared to. Subtle difference. Rubbish. As Elliottman said, Pardew just noted it was difficult because people will probably be way off with their sums.

I'm sold, sign him up.

What has the £35 million got us so far? £35m into the clubs coffers, beyond that who the ferk knows. Hope it allows us the ability to react to opportunities in the next 2 months of the transfer window, if there are any, that otherwise we might have missed out on.

Love it, now we have to wait until we've spent it. That'll mean we can't discuss it this transfer window. Saying £35 million only gets you 2 frees and an upgraded ground is not a discussion, it's just bollocks.

Whether they say it or not makes no odds tbh, it's pointless to discuss figures outside of the published accounts. Fact is though, Pardew has said we are still to spend (wherever the money comes from), so whatever the figures, stating that £35m gets you 2 free and an upgraded training pitch is a nonsense.