Dokko

Considering the players, fans, media and now probably owners think its his fault due to his shite formations, selections and tactics, passing the buck onto the players is not going to go down well with them. Whatever little support he had, he's just lost, its time for him to go. Sam Allardyce: England were right to turn you down, even Barwick saw how one dimensional you are, and you have failed to prove you are a top manager, now kindly fuk off and take a ride in to oblivion.

Lets hope when the time comes, be it tomorrow or in five years time, that Ashley and Mort don't listen to people like you. Unfortunately he has a point. The club simply won't be happy until we've seen what Shearer has to offer us as a manager. It might be worthwhile getting him in just so the next managers can stop looking over their shoulders.

Naldo Arteta Diego Go get em Ash!!

I love the way I checked this right now and that is exactly right! Its been like that since about 5mins after the thread creation. Spot on prediction like.

Minus capital pull we should still attracts some good candidates especially if the money is good.

Some are, the ones with the patronising "Oh you have to give him time, you're just being impatient" attitude. While there's a truth in what they're saying, none seem willing to admit that we don't appear to be making any sort of slow, steady progress, which is all I really expected from this season. Our football and performances are getting worse, and Allardyce is making the same mistakes which seem so obvious. As angry and frustarted as I am with our football, I know deep down that sacking him now probably isn't a good idea at all. But how anyone can't be very disapointed and extremely worried by everything we've seen from our team under Allardyce is beyond me. A very rational view mate.

Milner.

Bottom line is, you couldn't buy the quality we got on the right hand side from Solano and Dyer for £12.5m Yes you could, you just have to attempt to sign some attacking players.

I wonder if people would be more lenient towards him and this season if we hadn't been bought out in the summer? I think so, for me at least. I don't want to see us lose the biggest advantage given to us in 10+ years and that's what Ashley is, but more of this and it could be a short investment and that makes me nervous. If he got his own man in, and backed him properly then we'd be Citeh right now, the boards basic backing in the summer is not only suspect in terms of commitment, but also they have played their part in this poor season.

I'd say get rid. My opinion of him has changed dramatically. He's done nothing to suggest he's any better than the previous two. But only get rid if we have someone much better lined up, and its not a sidestep to a currently on form manager who'll also struggle at the club, because if that's the case, i'd rather just give the job to Shearer.

A Song for Sammy Radiohead: Just Can't get the stink off He's been hanging round for days Comes like a comet Suckered you but not your friends One day he'll get to you And teach you how to be a holy cow You do it to yourself, you do And that's what really hurts Is that you do it to yourself Just you and no one else You do it to yourself You do it to yourself Don't get my sympathy Hanging out the 15th floor You've changed the locks three times He still comes reeling through the door One day I'll get you And teach you how to get to purest hell You do it to yourself, you do And that's what really hurts Is that you do it to yourself Just you, you and no one else You do it to yourself You do it to yourself You do it to yourself, you do And that's what really hurts Is that you do it to yourself Just you, you and no one else You do it to yourself You do it to yourself.. yourself.. yourself.. Sums it up perfectly. :-[

like ive said, delusions of grandeur. did you really think we'd be flying high after the last 2 managers f***** us over so badly? the bigger picture. have a look once in a while, eh? What exactly is the bigger picture? Why are you so sure Sam will do well here? Has he managed a big club with huge expectations before? No he hasnt, i love how people like you hate people who are pissed off, then you start talking about this bigger picture. I am not happy about what is happening now, why? because the s*** has hit the fan and we look terrible, you're not so bad because of your bigger picture, why? f*** knows because you have no idea how Sam might turn out. Geez you think it was a bad thing to be upset when your team isnt doing well the bigger picture is what he did at bolton didnt take 6 months. alex ferguson didnt have the best starts either. apart from a few notable examples, time = success. lets give him a season at least. as for the rest, thats par for the course on here. when we win "we're the best teem in teh land!!!1" and when we lose, "the shits hit the fan, sack everyone" Fat Sam got Bolton into the top 6 once, Did not win anything, and in the process, played some of the most painfully awful football since the days of Wimbledon. His success was getting his players to kick lumps out of the opposition. You really want 5 years of that ? how much did he spend? peanuts. if he can do that with bolton with minimal transfer fee's, why not give him a decent chance with a bigger budget? We are not Bolton, different pressures, different expectations, different cultures. exactly. so why only give him 6 months to adapt to such a change? Because he's brought his Bolton mentality, Bolton football and Bolton Culture to Newcastle and he doesn't look like he's going to change his opinion. He seems to click on during matches, by come the next kick off he seems to have forgotten the change to the system which saw the game pick up and us playing football. the "bolton mentality" (for the most part) was successful. if he brings it here with a bit of money to spend then i'd be quite optimistic. i voted "no, but give him time" btw. im frustrated, but he needs time. He does need time, but he needs to prove he deserves it. Right now him sticking his head up his own arse and not listening to the fans is a certain way for him to fail in grand style. That is not our fault, its his, and for that he has to get results if he is to go against the grain. Its not like Bolton are the only team ever to win games, and ugly tough football is the only way to win in the prem. Sven & Citeh are proving SA has got this season wrong, and the examples could go on forever.

If he went 442, and palyed players in position and toughed out a few results by sticking to the formation, then he could have the rest of the season. If he continues to neglect popular opinion of what's wrong right now the formation, selection & tactics and we pick up no points and get battered then he's gone.

Need a poll really TT. With all questions in? Just a simple stick with or get rid. I'd be interested after today. Went with happy with, and 3 options for no. (as this is a review of feelings on whether people are happy with the current situation)

like ive said, delusions of grandeur. did you really think we'd be flying high after the last 2 managers f***** us over so badly? the bigger picture. have a look once in a while, eh? What exactly is the bigger picture? Why are you so sure Sam will do well here? Has he managed a big club with huge expectations before? No he hasnt, i love how people like you hate people who are pissed off, then you start talking about this bigger picture. I am not happy about what is happening now, why? because the s*** has hit the fan and we look terrible, you're not so bad because of your bigger picture, why? f*** knows because you have no idea how Sam might turn out. Geez you think it was a bad thing to be upset when your team isnt doing well the bigger picture is what he did at bolton didnt take 6 months. alex ferguson didnt have the best starts either. apart from a few notable examples, time = success. lets give him a season at least. as for the rest, thats par for the course on here. when we win "we're the best teem in teh land!!!1" and when we lose, "the shits hit the fan, sack everyone" Fat Sam got Bolton into the top 6 once, Did not win anything, and in the process, played some of the most painfully awful football since the days of Wimbledon. His success was getting his players to kick lumps out of the opposition. You really want 5 years of that ? how much did he spend? peanuts. if he can do that with bolton with minimal transfer fee's, why not give him a decent chance with a bigger budget? We are not Bolton, different pressures, different expectations, different cultures. exactly. so why only give him 6 months to adapt to such a change? Because he's brought his Bolton mentality, Bolton football and Bolton Culture to Newcastle and he doesn't look like he's going to change his opinion. He seems to click on during matches, by come the next kick off he seems to have forgotten the change to the system which saw the game pick up and us playing football.

I'd prefer him to a Moyes, Redknapp, Hughes, which would just be a pointless sidestep IMO. Obviously we get no gaurantees with Shearer, but I don't see where people get the idea that he would be a certain failure. Thats it like. There's no point side stepping and there is no point sacking him before lining up a replacement. Shearer could work, it might not. Whatever if would benefit the club if he were to take the managerial seat sooner rather than later so we can either count him in or count him out and if out, the following managers wont have him dangling over their heads waiting for failure.

Need a poll really TT. With all questions in?

It does for some people, but for most of us simply want improvement after a terrible first half of the season. Yes people go on about how many points we have, but here is a bigger picture, look at the 2nd half of the season and think how many points we will have in May. Alot of people, including myself are not pissed of so much because of the results, but more because of the manner of the results, the tactics, selections and performances have been some of the worst we have seen in a long time which boils down to one man, Big Sam. I am willing to give him to the end of the season but if he doesnt even show signs of improvement i.e. if we are still playing as bad as we are now, i will want Sam out. fair enough on the last point. but its all if's and buts with this "look at the fixtures" stuff. villa scored 4 past chelsea today. who saw that coming? Probably not the goals, but the draw could of easily of happened, it wouldn't be beyond those two teams to get that result right now.

Performance 'awful' You said it mate.

like ive said, delusions of grandeur. did you really think we'd be flying high after the last 2 managers f***** us over so badly? the bigger picture. have a look once in a while, eh? What exactly is the bigger picture? Why are you so sure Sam will do well here? Has he managed a big club with huge expectations before? No he hasnt, i love how people like you hate people who are pissed off, then you start talking about this bigger picture. I am not happy about what is happening now, why? because the s*** has hit the fan and we look terrible, you're not so bad because of your bigger picture, why? f*** knows because you have no idea how Sam might turn out. Geez you think it was a bad thing to be upset when your team isnt doing well the bigger picture is what he did at bolton didnt take 6 months. alex ferguson didnt have the best starts either. apart from a few notable examples, time = success. lets give him a season at least. as for the rest, thats par for the course on here. when we win "we're the best teem in teh land!!!1" and when we lose, "the shits hit the fan, sack everyone" Fat Sam got Bolton into the top 6 once, Did not win anything, and in the process, played some of the most painfully awful football since the days of Wimbledon. His success was getting his players to kick lumps out of the opposition. You really want 5 years of that ? how much did he spend? peanuts. if he can do that with bolton with minimal transfer fee's, why not give him a decent chance with a bigger budget? We are not Bolton, different pressures, different expectations, different cultures.

11th now, look at our remaining games i'll remember the arsenal game and stay positive. you just stay negative. Yes we scraped a draw against them. Few days later Boro Beat them !!! Remember the Arsenal game FFS !!!! :| "scraped"? bollocks. outplayed them for large periods and could easily have won. still though, we didnt beat a world class team so sack the fat c***, eh? Boro beat them just a few days later. If we loose the next 3 games will you still be saying remember the Arsenal game ? Wake up and smell the coffee m8. We are in s*** creek with this bloke in charge. He has 1 plan .... Hoof the ball up front, If it does not work, there is no back-up plan. what did you vote for as your predicted target at the start of the season? Top 7. A manager, playing these players in there proper positions. playing FOOTBALL not kick and Hoof, would have us there no problems. I reckon if he did play players in their position, and he did play 442 and get it down on the deck then we'd be close if not on 7th place. Thats the fuking pain in the arse thing about this whole situation.

In that lies the truth, and the only remedy to that problem is to sack the dumb fuker in charge fuking things up.

like ive said, delusions of grandeur. did you really think we'd be flying high after the last 2 managers f***** us over so badly? the bigger picture. have a look once in a while, eh? The last manager didn't fuk us over, he did his best (which wasn't good enough), this manager is fuking us over with his stubbornness, Roeder only wanted what was best for the club (and did a grand job considering the injury list), can you say the same for SA? Would love to see what Sa would produce with half the team out injured and having to play Ramage, Huntington & Edgar at the back for a period of time. so you can use that excuse but he couldnt at the time? interesting. roder did fuck us over in numerous ways. when he left, we hadnt scored at home for 3 or 4 months. he hardly left us in tip top shape. I don't particularly want to get into a previous vs now argument, simply because i can see both sides, but with that i can unfortunately see another side to this current situation, and its not pretty, and it doesn't look like its going to fix itself any time soon.