Dokko

Yes, SPL. And they only have 1 other 'keeper who is shite. Spot on then, good move for him.

Are they in the top division? If not pointless, rather him go to Leeds.

Nowt to do with the two knee ligament injuries he suffered? Probably enough to turn him bald! I think he does get a lot of leeway because of this within the club, a miracle as at one point it was said he wouldn't play again, i just think were giving him far too many games out of sympathy or something like that.

You are quality. To calm your nerves, the Smith deal will be discussed on SSN shortly, it was just on the headlines. Reckon that if the Drago deal is nearly there all 3 will be announced at once, why waste your free Orange minutes ringing David Craig 3 times in one day? Is he exclusively a SSN's NUFC reporter? I never see him doing anything else, probably relocated the poor b****** as well. Got to feel sorry for the poor bloke. Just gets thrown around from the Riverside to SoL to St James' from day-to-day, gets mobbed by charvers when a transfer is made or a manager is sacked/appointed. Bet he hates his job. The way he sneaked up on Smith though was classic. Really took him by surprise and basically got a scoop out of nothing (or 100% confirmation Smith was in talks)

I think we should buy Baines and play him in the centre, won't do him any harm and he's only young.

Exactly. Taylor is only 21 (I think). Will do him no harm whatsoever to have a couple of seasons in a lower risk position as he matures as a player. He's maturing fine at CB, he doesn't need a spell at RB, it would be a pointless exercise that should only be carried out in a total emergency. Maturing fine? Seemed to make a lot of mistakes last season for someone maturing "fine". At that age defenders make mistakes, he's about as accomplished as any 20-21 year old CB in the league. But the point is he still makes mistakes, if he was to make them at right back it wouldn't be so hazardous as if he made it in the middle as he can be covered. Being honest if we got Drago I'd be tempted to play him and Rozenhal as first choice so Taylor would be on the bench anyway. Or give him a season where he belongs to see what he can do. I'm more open to Drago & Rozy though. We've given him a season where he belongs and he make mistakes, he still has bags of potential but the only way he's going to sort himself out is by playing games with experienced defenders, you could say for him to get experience at CB but if we've got potentially a better partnership at the club then it would be a waste keeping them apart just to accommodate Taylor. Stick him at right back for a season or two, if anything it'll improve his ability on the ball and whenever I've seen him play there for us and England under 21's he's looked comfortable enough, best solution for everyone IMO as there isn't any rightbacks that stand out at the moment anyway. We gave him a season alongside some of the worst defenders in NUFC's history. It wasn't until the re emergence of Butt did he get any protection through the middle, down the sides were weak as piss and put immense pressure on the CB's. That's going to hopefully change, i hope he's in the centre being the star, considering what everyone else at the back was doing last season, Taylor in comparison hardly put a foot wrong.

You are quality. To calm your nerves, the Smith deal will be discussed on SSN shortly, it was just on the headlines. Reckon that if the Drago deal is nearly there all 3 will be announced at once, why waste your free Orange minutes ringing David Craig 3 times in one day? Is he exclusively a SSN's NUFC reporter? I never see him doing anything else, probably relocated the poor bastard as well.

Exactly. Taylor is only 21 (I think). Will do him no harm whatsoever to have a couple of seasons in a lower risk position as he matures as a player. He's maturing fine at CB, he doesn't need a spell at RB, it would be a pointless exercise that should only be carried out in a total emergency. Maturing fine? Seemed to make a lot of mistakes last season for someone maturing "fine". At that age defenders make mistakes, he's about as accomplished as any 20-21 year old CB in the league. But the point is he still makes mistakes, if he was to make them at right back it wouldn't be so hazardous as if he made it in the middle as he can be covered. Being honest if we got Drago I'd be tempted to play him and Rozenhal as first choice so Taylor would be on the bench anyway. Or give him a season where he belongs to see what he can do. I'm more open to Drago & Rozy though.

Wiki fuking tastic tbh.

I can't believe the new season is that close. The window has flown by.

Exactly. Taylor is only 21 (I think). Will do him no harm whatsoever to have a couple of seasons in a lower risk position as he matures as a player. He's maturing fine at CB, he doesn't need a spell at RB, it would be a pointless exercise that should only be carried out in a total emergency. Maturing fine? Seemed to make a lot of mistakes last season for someone maturing "fine". At that age defenders make mistakes, he's about as accomplished as any 20-21 year old CB in the league. I think Smoggie has a point though, I think his development has stuttered over the last season or so. I expect Allardyce to put that right though. It came on leaps and bounds last season, a perfect season for him ruined by a handful of stupid antics imo. Some of them 100% his fault, and i've berated him for that, some because he's been totally let down by the man beside him. This season he'll become a rock, cut out the mistakes and cement himself in the heart of defence, putting him at RB is about the biggest mistake we could make in his career to date. I'm just glad NUFC is now run by someone with a clue, and it simply won't happen. While I accept playing with Bramble didn't help I can't agree he came on 'leaps and bounds' last year. Good players will make it despite not because of who they play with. Taylor was appalling before xmas. Sam seems to have him sussed. Lower peoples expectations simply because the kid doesnt need it or deseve it. If he plays like he did at the beginning of last season he will be on the bench at best hopefully. The 'leaps and bound' comment presumably comes the pretty star jump he did against Man Utd when he should have been attacking the ball? Who wasn't appalling before xmas? He was one of out better players even then. Shaky start i agree with, but got better and better, the daft things will go away for next season, he will become a great player, i hope we keep the faith with him. So many people wanting to hate him because he's a local lad as they think he gets too much praise, its sickening.

Sol didn't play much there, i always remember him from an early age being a CB. Carragher was classed as very average until his move to CB, which just proves my point in a nutshell. Sol Campbell was definitely a right back when he broke into the Spurs team. Not long though. So Sol Campbell played at right back sometimes. Why should that mean that Taylor should? Sol settled at some point, maybe later than taylor and went on to have a great career. Carragher was left out on the right until nearly mid 20's, and his NT career stalled because of it at the very least. Most people thought he was just average until moved to CB when Henchoz fuked off. Taylor is there now, and can do a job now, and the more we play him the better he will become. I stand by it he came on leaps and bounds, there were times is was superb, and thats great for someone so young. Expect less of the bad and more of the good this season, Rozy looks like a perfect reliable partner for him, and Cacapa someone who once settled can teach him a few finer points of the game later on.

Sol didn't play much there, i always remember him from an early age being a CB. Carragher was classed as very average until his move to CB, which just proves my point in a nutshell. Sol Campbell was definitely a right back when he broke into the Spurs team. Not long though.

Exactly. Taylor is only 21 (I think). Will do him no harm whatsoever to have a couple of seasons in a lower risk position as he matures as a player. He's maturing fine at CB, he doesn't need a spell at RB, it would be a pointless exercise that should only be carried out in a total emergency. Maturing fine? Seemed to make a lot of mistakes last season for someone maturing "fine". At that age defenders make mistakes, he's about as accomplished as any 20-21 year old CB in the league. Wouldn't it be better to make his mistakes out wide though, and let a much more accomplished (at the moment) CB do a better job? Then when he's learned his trade in a couple of years (when, may I add, he's still young for a CB), he can revert into the centre and be a top top centre back, that hasn't harmed the team as he was produced. If there were some serious flaws with him, it should of been done with Bramble after season 1, but it wasn't. Taylor doesn't need this, he only needs to have more games in a settled back line coached by a good manager and get another years worth of experience behind him. He knows what his mistakes last season were, he won't make them again. He's changed a lot, and will keep changing, we need to keep pushing him forward an not sideways, we've took the biggest risk, we've almost fully blooded him at CB, lets not push him to the side now.

Exactly. Taylor is only 21 (I think). Will do him no harm whatsoever to have a couple of seasons in a lower risk position as he matures as a player. He's maturing fine at CB, he doesn't need a spell at RB, it would be a pointless exercise that should only be carried out in a total emergency. Maturing fine? Seemed to make a lot of mistakes last season for someone maturing "fine". At that age defenders make mistakes, he's about as accomplished as any 20-21 year old CB in the league. I think Smoggie has a point though, I think his development has stuttered over the last season or so. I expect Allardyce to put that right though. It came on leaps and bounds last season, a perfect season for him ruined by a handful of stupid antics imo. Some of them 100% his fault, and i've berated him for that, some because he's been totally let down by the man beside him. This season he'll become a rock, cut out the mistakes and cement himself in the heart of defence, putting him at RB is about the biggest mistake we could make in his career to date. I'm just glad NUFC is now run by someone with a clue, and it simply won't happen.

Sol didn't play much there, i always remember him from an early age being a CB. Carragher was classed as very average until his move to CB, which just proves my point in a nutshell. Played in midfield a bit before becoming settled as a centre-half iirc (Campbell that is). It won't necessarily be bad for Taylor to play right-back sometimes though, it's another option against big, physical sides. He can also play as part of a back three when required. Which is fine, but lining him up as a RB when looking at our defence is just plain stupid. People doing it in the formations thread as well, need their fuking heads read. Same fuking idiots who'll go mental if you suggest playing Barton as a DMC.

Exactly. Taylor is only 21 (I think). Will do him no harm whatsoever to have a couple of seasons in a lower risk position as he matures as a player. He's maturing fine at CB, he doesn't need a spell at RB, it would be a pointless exercise that should only be carried out in a total emergency. Maturing fine? Seemed to make a lot of mistakes last season for someone maturing "fine". At that age defenders make mistakes, he's about as accomplished as any 20-21 year old CB in the league.

Bringing up Rozy when slating the previous regime was a but stupid by the writer like.

Exactly. Taylor is only 21 (I think). Will do him no harm whatsoever to have a couple of seasons in a lower risk position as he matures as a player. He's maturing fine at CB, he doesn't need a spell at RB, it would be a pointless exercise that should only be carried out in a total emergency.

Sol didn't play much there, i always remember him from an early age being a CB. Carragher was classed as very average until his move to CB, which just proves my point in a nutshell.

Agreed. the lad is a centre back through and through. Its not like he hasn't proved himself there. He was easily our best defender last season, it would not only be an utter cheek to move him to RB, but it would aslo hinder his progress by putting him there. Even more idiotic are people pairing Rozy (a lighter defender) with Cacapa who by all accounts is small, lightweight & injured quite a bit. Two soft CB's, yeah that makes perfect fuking sense.

Putting Taylor at RB is about the dumbest thing anyone could do right now, especially who you are shifting him for.

Belly out for some of them.

He's not good enough for Newcastle, but i don't expect him anywhere near the 1st team and his appearances in the pre season are probably putting him in the shop window for a full transfer or loan. To me his biggest problem was his ability to read the game, he passed behind players, and moved into negative positions, slowing the game down and taking an option away.

If anything our fitness levels went up when GR came in, i think we need to look further back to find where it all went tits up, just GR didn't fix it.