Dokko

Down they go again.

Viduka does have a 'I'm bigger than you so i feel like twatting you one' look about him

Aye they've got it on their round up of the conference, hehe!

Player parade is different to individual press conferences. Did I miss the parade, or is it on right now? This is a players press conference, a player being put forward before the press to answer press questions. This is exactly what you said doesn't happen anymore and its happening right now. SA is talking about the transfer now. Nowt special though. He's here and he's ready to play.

Player parade on SSN's.

Aye me too wonder what is holding it up?? I'm hoping a rigorous medical, same with Smith.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6929552.stm Q&A on Tevez deal By James Munro BBC sports news correspondent Carlos Tevez Tevez can now finally complete a move to Man Utd One of the most protracted and complicated moves in English football is set to be resolved with Carlos Tevez poised to switch from West Ham to Manchester United. The matter was set to go to the High Court on 22 August but talks between West Ham and the Tevez camp are set to have avoided any such scenario. After months of complex negotiations, the matter seems to be ending - and this is why the deal has became one of football's most drawn-out sagas. WHY IS THE TEVEZ DEAL SO COMPLICATED? It's because Media Sports Investment (MSI) and Just Sports Inc, which owns the player's economic rights, and West Ham, which holds the player's registration, fell out over how much compensation the club would need to release him. And the Premier League needed to be satisfied the sum would be enough to prove that it was West Ham, and not a third party, which owned the player's registration. About £2m appears to have satisfied all three parties. WHY A LOAN MOVE TO MAN UTD AND NOT A PERMANENT DEAL? A similar deal was struck with Liverpool when his Argentine team-mate, Javier Mascherano, moved from West Ham. It is a complicated formula designed to ensure that the club and MSI do not break the Premier League's rules on third party agreements. But part of the loan deal would be the offer of a permanent transfer, perhaps in 2009. HOW MUCH DO WE EXPECT MAN UTD TO PAY? No figures have been made public, but Tevez would be expected to earn more than £4m a year. Any permanent deal could see Manchester United pay around £25m. WHO IS GETTING THE MONEY FOR THE DEAL? Kia Joorabchian Tevez's representative Joorabchian had threatened West Ham with a High Court hearing MSI's representative Kia Joorabchian has negotiated the deal with Manchester United which should be concluded this weekend. The company can expect a one-off payment of more than £5m. West Ham will get around £2m in compensation. MSI would also benefit from any permanent transfer deal. DOES THE OUTCOME CONTRADICT WEST HAM SAYING THEY HAD TORN UP THE THIRD PARTY AGREEMENT WITH THE TEVEZ CAMP? In normal circumstances, the selling club would earn the transfer fee but this is no ordinary contract. West Ham insist that the deal proves that it was the club's decision to release Tevez - and part of their compromise deal with MSI is that all legal action is off. The Premier League would only have accepted the deal if their lawyers were sure that it proved beyond doubt that it was West Ham's decision to release Tevez from his contract, and not MSI's. They have got an eye on the threat of legal action by Sheffield United. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR SHEFFIELD UNITED? If West Ham had have been docked points rather than fined at the initial hearing into the transfers of Tevez and Javier Mascherano it is almost certain Sheffield United would have stayed up at the expense of the Upton Park side. Hence their interest. The club says it will study the deal closely before deciding upon its next course of action.

I wonder why?

Right. So no 3rd party ownership there then?

They're paying 10m to loan him for 2 years with a option to buy him for 20m at the end of the loan. Who are they paying? West Ham, MSI or Corinthians?

£2m So does MSI still own him and manu are just loaning him? Points docked already.

Anderson is a MIDFIELDER. Why don't we include solano's goals if we include his? Shevie scored 4 pl goals last season, yet this season he magically quadrouples that number? I can't see viduka scoring 15 next season, as he may well find himself 3rd striker. I can also see Martins scoring more than 10, as he scored 11 last season, which was his first in the PL, he'll be playing in a more accomplished and tactical team, and he's averaged over 1 in 2 or exactly 1 in 2 in every league season he's played in, and i can see him playing in more than 20 games bar injury. Saha will almost definately score less, as 3rd striker, and ManU fans think they will be playing 1 up front for the majority of games next season, who will most definately be rooney. I wouldn't of put Anderson in there, but they don't have a 4th striker. Sheva will play a lot more and will score a lot more goals imo. Viduka & Owen are 1st choice strikers by the way SA, Owen, Viduka & Martins have been going on. Aye, but why do we need to have 4 strikers? including anderson would be no different to including, say, ronaldo, and i cant see anderson even playing 6 games next season. I will rephrase my viduka thing then, i can't see viduka starting 5 games more than martins. They will be at the least joint rotational second strikers imo. I really can't see sheva scoring over 10. Throw Ronaldo in instead of Anderson then. Who knows Manu could still be on the hunt for another striker. If they are playing 1 up front then maybe not, but its a matter of 6 goals, it doesn't really matter that much. Viduka if fit will start most games, i see Owen & Martins fighting it out to partner him, well i did in a 442 but SA has said its more likely to be 433. Our uncertainty makes it hard to pin down whats going to happen, none of these other teams have had the same change about as us, so we really are the biggest unknown quantity out of the lot. I think Sheva will have a fantastic season, i think Chelsea will be far more open, but like i said, you just don't know what the manager is thinking, time for Jose to be less negative, he's hinted as much.

Martins scored only one less league goal then Berbatov last season and played two less game. Martins is going to get a lot less games though if Owen stays fit. Fair point, but you could then also say the same for the likes of Keane (11 last season) and Defoe (10 last season) at Spurs now that Bent has arrived. As well as Crouch (only 9 last season) now that Torres has arrived. None of them are likely to get more this season then last in what will likely be less games. Fair enough, top of my head, nowts going to be the exact truth, however you've just got no idea how its going to pan out in the end. I think Crouch & Torres will be 1st choice so guess they will be spending a lot of time on the pitch since the pressure is on Rafa to deliver a better title fight from the off instead of falling at the 1st hurdle like he's done in the previous 3 seasons. More emphasis on the league for Liverpool this season. I think on average Spurs will score more goals this season, just think they are ready to really push on, and Bent did well for Charlton so will bring the same level of goals in less games due to being surrounded by better players.

Anderson is a MIDFIELDER. Why don't we include solano's goals if we include his? Shevie scored 4 pl goals last season, yet this season he magically quadrouples that number? I can't see viduka scoring 15 next season, as he may well find himself 3rd striker. I can also see Martins scoring more than 10, as he scored 11 last season, which was his first in the PL, he'll be playing in a more accomplished and tactical team, and he's averaged over 1 in 2 or exactly 1 in 2 in every league season he's played in, and i can see him playing in more than 20 games bar injury. Saha will almost definately score less, as 3rd striker, and ManU fans think they will be playing 1 up front for the majority of games next season, who will most definately be rooney. I wouldn't of put Anderson in there, but they don't have a 4th striker. Sheva will play a lot more and will score a lot more goals imo. Viduka & Owen are 1st choice strikers by the way SA, Owen, Viduka & Martins have been going on.

That's because the new season has started earlier this year. Usually, it starts near the end of August. I thought CS always was the 1st weekend in August, season starting the following

Martins scored only one less league goal then Berbatov last season and played two less game. Martins is going to get a lot less games though if Owen stays fit.

Don't think there is really a simple answer to that one. I suppose you could go off how many league goals each player would score and total them up, so here would be mine off the top of my head. Us- Owen (18), Viduka (15), Martins (10), Ameobi (6) (Total:49) Liverpool- Torres (18), Crouch (16), Kuyt (11), Vorinin (-8-) (Total:53) Man Utd- Rooney (15), Saha (12), Anderson (6), Tevez (14) (Total:47) Arsenal- Adebayor (11), Van Persie (13), De Silva (15), Bentner (6) (Total:45) Chelsea- Drogba (23), Pizzaro (10), Shevchenko (16), Kalou (5) (Total:54) Spurs- Berbatov (18), Keane (12), Defoe (10), Bent (15) (Total:55) I've removed Smith so everyone has 4 strikers each and i also think he'll be a mid anyway.

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Ever been arrested? Its what they do. 'You'll get 5 years for this!' just like the papers, send the willys up those who don't know its all talk. Prison are too full anyway, no chance they'll put him in when the can fine him and humiliate him if needed. It's the maximum sentence for assault if it goes to Crown Court (unlikely). Assault can include things like assaulting a person under the age of 16 (if you're an adult), aggravated assault, assaulting a police officer etc., etc. All of which are far worse than this. I would imagine the sentencing guidelines for something like this means a custodial sentence of any kind is unlikely. Aye. Barton will go with (sorry can't think what the one i was thinking of, common?) for this, he might even plead guilty to that charge in the end, if so there is no way he'll be going to prison for it. A few cuts and bruises, it wasn't anything serious. Like i said, i know someone who was glassed in the face, the person who did it admitted it, and wasn't jailed for it because the prisons are too full and only serious wounding and repeat offenders are doing custodial. and the judge will go ... I see you have a history of violent behaviour, you chav cunt, I'm going to make an example out of you boy He'll win on appeal that its only because of his status as a footballer that he's getting treated like that. Does he have other convictions? (seriously i do not know if he has or not) PS: I think its ABH i was thinking of. (for above)

Ever been arrested? Its what they do. 'You'll get 5 years for this!' just like the papers, send the willys up those who don't know its all talk. Prison are too full anyway, no chance they'll put him in when the can fine him and humiliate him if needed. It's the maximum sentence for assault if it goes to Crown Court (unlikely). Assault can include things like assaulting a person under the age of 16 (if you're an adult), aggravated assault, assaulting a police officer etc., etc. All of which are far worse than this. I would imagine the sentencing guidelines for something like this means a custodial sentence of any kind is unlikely. Aye. Barton will go with (sorry can't think what the one i was thinking of, common?) for this, he might even plead guilty to that charge in the end, if so there is no way he'll be going to prison for it. A few cuts and bruises, it wasn't anything serious. Like i said, i know someone who was glassed in the face, the person who did it admitted it, and wasn't jailed for it because the prisons are too full and only serious wounding and repeat offenders are doing custodial.

Board invasion if so.

Welcome aboard Smithy! Don't think we need you, hopefully you are gonna prove me wrong.

Ever been arrested? Its what they do. 'You'll get 5 years for this!' just like the papers, send the willys up those who don't know its all talk. Prison are too full anyway, no chance they'll put him in when the can fine him and humiliate him if needed.