Dokko

Good move short term for us.

Still can't believe I got banned in one post for asking that on a villa forum. Touchy. Though I did ask if it were going to be jasper carrot. Still more constructional questioning than anything else.

Sad sacks of shit that they are. As small time as the mackems are villa.

Aw man please happen.

I can. They've always got that in them, but it's less likely with a low spirit. See how that point yesterday changes their outlook next game.

Steve Mac in as his replacement. Almost starting to feel sorry for villa. Nah.

Sadly for some it will be. RIP those who don't make it. :'(

It's a bit tetchy in here. Two weeks to go as well.

He still posting bollocks or has he hid away now he's not so confident?

Realistically we should finish the season stronger than we started. We have a window plus £30m in the bank so no worry there. But I think we should be settling down now. Maybe it's Rafas rotation policy which is causing a longer settling time? Still be with it in the long run, this club just isn't used to having a squad. One thing I don't buy is that It's taking time to wipe that losing mentality. Tbh the games we struggled in have been down to tactics more than anything else. He needs to do it his way and that's fine, just expected a little more form easily the best squad in the division even if it's early doors.

So pissing about has cost them an extra £2.5m due to brexit which they all voted for? Brilliant

I really hope thy mention the ones they tried to stitch up but told them to fuck off. Would be nice to know if any are out there.

Norwich and Huddersfield have difficult away games, could go top with a decent win. Fingers crossed. Not taking anything for granted though.

Page 33-39 is incredible. Great how people are starting to celebrate the equaliser and others are celebrating the victory...then everyone catches up.

Sadly, this is true. Bumped into a coach of Norwich fans at the services on the way home, was having a chat with the driver and he mentioned this happened. Its down to Norwich fans vandalising the sbr memorial garden a few years ago. Seems retaliation is on a few minds.

Fuck it. Apathy already setting in for this season. Don't think I can be arsed, Rafa drew me back in but if he's gonna fuck on like this then I don't want to know.

This is bollocks really. He should be doing much better. I dare say mcclaren would have similar points on the board at this stage.

Should be doing a lot more in this division with the squad he's got. No excuses, needs to book up his ideas up.

He'll be broken, utterly and completely destroyed at this. Glorious.

Will leave with a 100% victory record.

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i predicted Hull at home at the start of the season as their first win, thats in November and if i come close to being right it will be a disaster for them It's possible, just depends on how this weekend effects them. Tbh losing from 2-0 up at home is probably worse than getting a kicking and losing 4-0...even when they are in a winning position next time this match will be all they are thinking about until the final whistle. Just take one mistake, teams back in it and they'll fold. It's not so,etching I really associate with Sunderland, usually they get a goal and they'll go on to take something out of the game. I've seen some incredible dig in the trenches performances over the years but it seems they don't even have that any more. Spirit will be broken if not shattered by that loss, and spirit is all they've had for years.

West brom are doing OK as well, might be a difficult game for them that one. Stoke will be seeing their game in the same manner, one to start the season and they have home advantage. Looking at their fixtures and there's point to be had, but really they need 4 wins before December, if they don't then I can't see them turning it around, not this time without us to gift them.

Players need to take responsibility - Moyes Sunderland manager David Moyes blamed his players for failing to hold on to a 2-0 lead in Saturday's 3-2 home defeat by Crystal Palace. The Black Cats led through Jermain Defoe's double before Palace hit back, with Christian Benteke heading in the winner in the 94th minute. "We need our players to assume a level of responsibility that it's not all down to me and my staff," he said. "It's simple - just do the basics well and then you won't concede goals." Moyes, who took over from Sam Allardyce in the summer, said at the start of the season that Sunderland would be involved in a relegation fight. His side are now bottom of the Premier League table with one point from six games. "We're in a similar situation to where the club's been for the last two or three seasons," added the former Everton and Manchester United manager. "To address this, when we go 2-0 up, we don't lose headers and challenges. "The players have got to do their bit, and I'm not sure today in certain situations they did. "Many managers have said similar things to me and maybe the fans are now used to it. I do think the players need to be big enough to play and do the right things." Sunderland's next match is at home to West Brom next Saturday.

They're really going to hate Moyes after him saying that. These post game comms need to stop .