Kanj

And neither got a minute today, but thank you.

FYI I literally work in acquisitions, where my entire life is based on convincing my key stakeholders and fellow folks to agree to a deal. It’s my job, not theirs, to make the case. And if they say no, that’s literally on them and I have to find ways to make a deal work. I don’t throw my toys out and say “fuck them!” I find out what they want and are looking for and rebuild my case or change tact. While I want Mitchell to knock it out the park and find us our next Dani Olmo and Sadio Mane, it’s also on Mitchell to work with our manager to convince him as such. It’s also on Mitchell to convince his corporate colleagues to keep driving the commercial side to fund deals. it’s also on Mitchell to convince Eddie that selling Miggy or Murphy makes sense because the underlying data + the replacement supports that thesis. If you think Eddie is just going to say NO, my way or highway then you are lost. He’s never acted on his own self interests at NUFC.

*didn’t sign obscure CB *why don’t we shove out Miggy to Saudi, fuck his feelings *we should be run like a corporate club ^^news flash, for our entirety of the last 30+ years the reason we’ve got this absolutely mad fan base is the absolutely mad way this club has always been run, good and bad. It just so happened to click beyond measurable levels the past 3 years post takeover. But it’s all very start-up hype and it’s raw, unorthodox and fun. We back the absolute freaks who go 100% all-in on NUFC and not the corporate stiffs and suits. Every time you see one of those, you probably get run the fuck out of town. You back the ones who get IT. Never did I truly grasp that more than my last 3 trips to Newcastle in the last 18 months.

Bruno gets that foul every game, so no, it wasn’t embarrassing. Gordon’s. Yes. Awful.

I think the world of his talent spotting and his record at Southampton, Spurs and RB, but his time at Monaco from 2020 onwards wasn’t perfect. There wasn’t Olmo or Mane there, maybe, yet.

Expand please. Why are we so screwed?

I think Ancelotti would have us winning trophies tbh. I’d also love to see our Paul Mitchell brigade back Paul over Don Carlo fucking nerds.

To be fair, think KI is clearly pointing to 13th and 10th @ Everton under Ancelotti.

Ah and to make it clear, football clubs are fans, the players, the manager. When the suits and corporate boys make it about them they are lost and should be fucking shot out of a cannon. The best operators are the ones you don’t hear about or from. They get on with their jobs and make it work.

I read those reports but I’ve also read the other ones that talk about what Ashworth wasn’t doing, what he wasn’t good at. What his actual functional problem was. The fact he wasn’t a scout. The fact he was dragging fucking ass getting deals done or negotiated. The fact that the manager in the prior setup was a final-say person and the owners, the ones EH and Ashworth reported to, weren’t happy with. It only became this weird obsession that EH was too tight with Amanda and co when the CEO decided to say some comments that you are now taking for gospel Again. Ill repeat this and we can agree to disagree - you are taking the opinion and word of a CEO who’s been here for a couple of years and a DOF who spends a couple of years at clubs before leaving. Yep, Mehrdad and Amanda have no experience in footbal, but the decisions they made with Jamie and PIF > Eales ‘charge’. And if he felt he was underminded by two folks who had 10% of the club, he shouldn’t be shocked. He doesn’t and will never have a fucking once of cred they did. They saved us from MA. I’ll take their unorthodox level over his at this point. He’s been in charge of growing commercial and all he’s got is a friendly Adidas deal (thanks PIF/Saudi) and Sela (thanks PIF). Darren Eales has ALL to prove and absolutely 0 credit in the bank for me and should for most fans. Same goes to Paul Mitchell. Track record elsewhere means nothing here once the season starts for corporates.

The fact isak’s looking for tap ins and not banging in worldies and curlers or neat finishes is a real problem that needs to be solved by EH

Really going to come at me with that?

Ashworth wasn’t a problem until he was quietly taking emails from his Man United mates on company monitored communication. Ashworth isn’t a scout and never claimed to be one. Eddie only had a problem with him when Ashworth was flirting with another rival club on our time.

HAHA the guy who stays at clubs a few years and scouts players who a manager then has to develop over Howe. Yeah ok.

Based off what? Has anyone ever asked him what his views on the scouting, data etc going forward? Was it ever his remit to do that when Ashworth, Mr Center of the Wheel, was there? Nearly all of his signings have been hits. He didn’t want to lose Minteh. He’s asked if the previous scouting was not fit for purpose and he very clearly said the signings I was part of were hits. Which they were.

The one manager who I absolutely wanted outside of Howe was universally hated at the end of last season in Dortmund. A man who tactically is the most switched on mind in my eye but apparently was fucking awful in Bundesliga last season and the fans were happy to get rid of despite making the CL fucking final. It ain’t all grass is greener lads.

I assume 99% here are Newcastle United over “individuals” but if you one for second think Eddie Howe isn’t thinking what’s best for the fans and his players over the shield that is NUFC than you need a reality check. Mitchell and Eales are suits who bounce around from job to job. Remember that before you want to make sweeping comments. Remember we’re fans. This man has done nothing but think of what’s best for US and the players. @KaKa you’ve mentioned a ton of other clubs who had better head starts, an actual functioning academy, an actual functioning infrastructure at football and corporate level and no Mike Ashley. Sadly, we are an absolute anomaly of football. All we had to prop us up was a rabidly supportive fan base and a 52,000 stadium. Other than that, we were fucking useless in every single area. Our best academy talent consists of Sean Longstaff, Lewis Miley and the now gone Elliott Anderson. It should in theory, based on all the new rules created to fucking hold us back, take us a decade+ to compete yet we have a manager who cobbled together the 4th best points total since he joined our club. Mate I will always love your passion and analysis on talent out there, but you absolutely need to step off the gas pedal with some of your takes as of late. Have some patience. Respect EH. He’d school every single fucking person on this forum on football.

Get ya popcorn out, I’ll probably get my first ban if I see anyone actually truly attempting to voice a coherent position on why Mitchell should be backed over Howe based on the sum total of recruitment at other clubs in the past.

Who do people want instead? Who’s elite and world class who’d take on this chalice of working with players the club can’t shift?

We have a fuck load of football to play and another transfer window.

Yeah, I wasn’t woosh’d. Just incredibly poor football knowledge and analysis. 4th in total points since he took over. Yet people think they know more than him and want someone “world class”

What fucking human being sits around pushing for Howe out after Luton beat us and sits around just gasping and waiting for a time to say I told you so? Just think its strange behavior. Did everything positive that came after Luton fucking away make you mad? “Oooo he’s not going to be out any time soon” Or are you just taking the piss? If so, I’ll 100% say you got me.

You’re weird as fuck.

He’s got to take responsibility for how he’s played these 6 games; he’s an absolutely world class talent, but he’s got so much to continue to work on. Eddie has backed him and played him left, right, and central. He’s had every single chance to make impacts and push his will on matches. Play often is gone through him - he must stand up and fix whatever is going on.

Honestly, if there is something we as fans should take some comfort in, we have a bunch of guys who needed this kick in the teeth and this should push us on. We have never had bad eggs under Howe. We have real leaders and real dressing room togetherness on and off the pitch. The boys will solve this and we’ll kick on.