The College Dropout

You can find total salaries in football clubs company accounts. Slightly distorted by non football staff for some clubs but it’s real data.

You’re conflating lots of different things. If a club entity owns the stadium the club will be paying for it. Maybe some type of low interest loan, I don’t know. Either way - finance is not the reason for delay. Man Utd debt was part of a leveraged buy out. Thats nowt to do with spending on infrastructure. Youre making strawman arguments in a desperate bid to defend PIF. but why?

Gunuinely - so what? If I understand correctly - if the stadium is owned by the club a club entity will pay for it. So then it’s a matter of financing. I doubt financing is a hold up.

Any firm announcement would be a big bonus. I don't even think new training facilities and stadium expansion/new stadum is something only a oil-money type club would do. SJP hasn't had updating in 30 years, it's one of the few top flight stadiums to be in that position and most of the rest are in a similar position re: regeneration. Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford & Selhurst Park stand out.

No idea. But City Group announced the training campus within 3 years of buying the club. Construction contract signed in 4. FSG announced expansion to Anfield within 2 years of purchase. Once it got to 4 years, I think it's reasonable to start asking questions. Otherwise... how long before you start asking questions? 5 year in November - no concrete plans... is it time to start asking questions by then if nothing has been announced? 6 years? 7??

Firm announcements and then shovels in the ground would stop all that noise. 5 years and no agreed, approved plans is a genuine concern. We don’t even have a decision announced o what they want to do with the stadium.

Stinks

Bowen's a much better player than Wissa man. Think he'll have better offers though if West Ham go down. Gets a 4 year contract - You may only get 1-3 years out of him at this level which a club like Liverpool can gamble on but we can't.

Do we? Does Howe? Agree Hall hasn't been great recently.

We need regular European football. Most seasons - 8th is good enough for Europe now. We should be in Europe 4 years out of 5 if that's the case. And win the non-CL competitions too.

Yep that was my one concern when we signed him. Same with Bruno actually. With Bruno it's maybe the one thing making him best in the world. For Botman it's a much bigger problem

Just want evolution from Howe. Was expecting it this seasona and it's not materialised.

Low 80 point winning season is good for the league

City don’t deserve the draw. Needing Arsenal to only draw 1 of the remaining 3 is massive though. Theres still some hope for them.

Interesting twist at the end there. Shame for Everton that they haven’t won

He’s the only genuine progressive passer in midfield or attack.

I liked his movement.

He only has a future here if Howe has a plan for us to play a bit more football. I don’t think Howe does.

The selection does point that he’s not looking for a new formula (right now) and would rather put his faith in the players he trusts most. It makes me think his job is on the line from these results. Think most managers default to favourites/trusted players in that situation.

Think it was a typical win of ours in a close game. Concede rhe ball. Try to defend well. Didn’t defend great but still got the goal on the counter and the win.

Tron is just defending everything PIF has done and will do, it's not a genuine conversation. Own our football club. Massive promises. Don't make necessary efforts to deliver = entitled fans. Ok man. Enjoy the evening sun.

Weird. I talk about knowing ball and have criticism of decisions/behaviours of the people who run the football club. Yet - I've never wanted Eddie out. I've never thought he was beyond reproach and noticed negative patterns at his best - which is why i'm largely unbothered by those same pattterns now results have turned (pre-planned subs, reactive to goals rather than play, overemphasis on PL experience etc.) I think you've taken a super hardline where if anyone criticises anyone at the club - you can't stand it. You can't critique the owners or the manager, if you do - you're ungrateful and spoiled. I don't think that's a sensible way of looking at things or the world personally. I think there's valid grounds to want Eddie gone. But there's not enough justification for me. And I don't think his coaching/managerial performance is the primary cause of our underperformance. I think it's a poorly assembled squad. But I can see and to some degree respect an alternate perspective. I am worried he's lost the belief of the dresssing rooom.

Who are these people?

I think the initial swell of optimism and the scale of ambition and excitement is something few owners (+ Staveley) could've stirred up. That helped us sign high-profile players like Isak & Tonali. But it's also true there was a super low base commercially. They haven't done significantly better than any competent and determined ownership would do. For the baggage they carry - I personally want more.