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Pathetic What a load of nonsense Pip. No point in debating with you. He won an FA Cup with a Wigan side that was the worst in the league year after year on paper but still stayed up. If you are comparing his Wigan side to the side Pardew has had here over the years, then you are clueless. He also promoted Swansea from League One and started their journey into the PL even if Sousa and Rodgers in many ways were big reason.

no way

I'm not saying Moyes didn't do heck of a job for Everton btw, the complete opposite. I just don't agree with your arguments. It's Martinez team and they reached the highest points total ever in the PL. They're having a bad season, but Moyes had them one as well. Only time will tell though whether he'll be as good as Moyes He's still a very good manager in my opinion.

This should be the first post in every match thread.

He's not playing with Moyes team at all tbf. Big part of their success last season was their central midfield IMO, and that was two Martinez players in McCarthy and Barry. Especially Barry who everyone thought was done. Lukaku was another one of his players. I don't buy that it was Moyes team because it just wasn't. As for him not being the best in the transfer market I think that has always been his biggest failure, but as a footballing manager/coach he's a very good one.

Pip and triggs. How many seasons did Moyes manage Everton? How many times did he reach the 72pts as Martinez did in his first season as a manager at the club? Let's be honest Moyes had a season he finished with 39pts for Everton, if Martinez manages to do worse than that I'll be shocked and I'll eat my words and I'll have a Moyes avatar for all of the 2015/2016 season while having ' Martinez sucks' in my sig.

I think he is a very good manager. Everton had a very good season last year, already forgetting that? They're in terrible form right now though.

Excellent FF tactic to play the best players from every opposition we have.

Think he'll be grafting out wide. Love to see a 4-4-2 but can't see it with Anita in there.

Only going to watch this because I want to see Ayoze.

Horrible dive from Ivanovic, doesn't make me want him to knock Carroll out less though.

Depends, if Fabregas is seen as a central midfielder than Matic isn't the best in his team. Disagree Flip. Matic gives you a lot more freedom tactically you can even go to a central midfield two with one of them being Matic whereas with Cesc you can forget that option entirely imo Don't get me wrong either, I love Cesc but if I can only have one I'm taking Matic every time. Creative players are more plentiful than Pivots of Matic's class imo. Fair enough, if there was one player I'd build a team around in this league it's probably Fabregas. He controls the game with the ball at his feet. Out of interest Flip would you play him as a central midfielder or as the #10? Depends on what other players are in the team tbf.

Depends, if Fabregas is seen as a central midfielder than Matic isn't the best in his team. Disagree Flip. Matic gives you a lot more freedom tactically you can even go to a central midfield two with one of them being Matic whereas with Cesc you can forget that option entirely imo Don't get me wrong either, I love Cesc but if I can only have one I'm taking Matic every time. Creative players are more plentiful than Pivots of Matic's class imo. Fair enough, if there was one player I'd build a team around in this league it's probably Fabregas. He controls the game with the ball at his feet.

Depends, if Fabregas is seen as a central midfielder than Matic isn't the best in his team.

Brilliant player. On his day. Too inconsistent. Has all the talent in the world, just not sure he has the will. He fakes his will by making sliding tackles all over the pitch but just doesn't have the will to impose his offensive qualities in games. A better version of Coutinho more or less.

http://i.imgur.com/DOqLXrt.gif :lol:

It's worse than Hawaiian flowers Fucking Burberry man. You can't go and buy something that screams Burberry like that. Horrible.

Wasn't it running until 2019 previously? What's the point of give him a new one already?

Top 10 is fine, but after that it's just a car crash.

Sissoko was better What game did you watch between 25 and 70 mins? Have to say I agree with triggs on this one. Sissoko was immense. Thought Perez had some troubles in the first half. No doubt the most talented player at the club though, Joyce Perez can play. He disappeared along with colback for 40 mins. Only perez deserves any praise from today. Fair enough if that's your opinion.

Sissoko was better What game did you watch between 25 and 70 mins? Have to say I agree with triggs on this one. There's a first time for everything Doesn't happen often I know.

Sissoko was better What game did you watch between 25 and 70 mins? Have to say I agree with triggs on this one. Sissoko was immense. Thought Perez had some troubles in the first half. No doubt the most talented player at the club though, Joyce Perez can play.

Armstrong was good. The balance was right before Cisse came on. Cissé sub was so f***ing stupid. We were well on top, why would you change things when we're getting close to a goal? Was absolutely fucking retarded bad choice of word I know and I apologize, but that's how I feel.