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How unreliable is that? At this point it just seems like anything can happen. World is ours guys! World is ours!

Mother of f***ing god, this is set up to absolutely ruin 2015 for me if it doesn't happen. I'm tearing up just of the thought of him being gone, that's how much I hate this guy. Imagine it man. Imagine not having Cuntface as our manager. Imagine f***ing celebrating a goal again. Please just let this s*** happen. Seriously, have the chills. Going to be refreshing like a madman in here so we can all celebrate this the second it happens.

Mother of fucking god, this is set up to absolutely ruin 2015 for me if it doesn't happen. I'm tearing up just of the thought of him being gone, that's how much I hate this guy.

Perfect time for him getting the fuck out.

Mascherano still until Matic proves it in the latter stages of the Champions league IMO Not the best DM in his team, but I would probably also pick Mascherano over Matic right now. But depends on the type of player you want.

Lahm was stellar at DM last season. And there's Mascherano, Busquets, De Rossi. But Matic is in top form and only getting better. Also depends on how you see Schweinsteiger as he's also a better player in my opinion. Xabi Alonso is having a fantastic start in his Bayern career as well.

Thought 1X on both is worth the money.

Not a whole new, because he used to be decent, but he looks to have his confidence back. Didn't he score a shit load in pre-season or something?

€5m FFS. We're so stupid.

I found it amazing because it felt like he was in the air for 10 minutes

Amazing save that.

When did he play for Parma?

Lukaku and Hart in for Rooney and Forster. I just can't see (will probably happen now though) Burnley scoring away at Man City.

I didn't. Had Rooney © and Mata in FF. Great day.

1 win in 6. Great manager though because the W was against Chelsea. Legend.

He'll use this game as momentum for his next appearance in preseason.

Getting huge praise by Brazilian commentators. Saying it's weird to praise an attacking player of a team that doesn't attack (hear that Pardew) but that Ayoze promises a lot for the future.

Pathetic What a load of nonsense Pip. No point in debating with you. He won an FA Cup with a Wigan side that was the worst in the league year after year on paper but still stayed up. If you are comparing his Wigan side to the side Pardew has had here over the years, then you are clueless. He also promoted Swansea from League One and started their journey into the PL even if Sousa and Rodgers in many ways were big reason.

no way

I'm not saying Moyes didn't do heck of a job for Everton btw, the complete opposite. I just don't agree with your arguments. It's Martinez team and they reached the highest points total ever in the PL. They're having a bad season, but Moyes had them one as well. Only time will tell though whether he'll be as good as Moyes He's still a very good manager in my opinion.

This should be the first post in every match thread.

He's not playing with Moyes team at all tbf. Big part of their success last season was their central midfield IMO, and that was two Martinez players in McCarthy and Barry. Especially Barry who everyone thought was done. Lukaku was another one of his players. I don't buy that it was Moyes team because it just wasn't. As for him not being the best in the transfer market I think that has always been his biggest failure, but as a footballing manager/coach he's a very good one.

Pip and triggs. How many seasons did Moyes manage Everton? How many times did he reach the 72pts as Martinez did in his first season as a manager at the club? Let's be honest Moyes had a season he finished with 39pts for Everton, if Martinez manages to do worse than that I'll be shocked and I'll eat my words and I'll have a Moyes avatar for all of the 2015/2016 season while having ' Martinez sucks' in my sig.

I think he is a very good manager. Everton had a very good season last year, already forgetting that? They're in terrible form right now though.