Mr Logic

So is the Portsmouth job the first one he's had money to spend then? I assume he never had so much at West Ham..

I will follow you I think most of us will be, better buy shares in Kleenex actually.

Just a point about this 'mutual agreement' thing. Considering how shocked he appeared to be I suspect he was 'asked' to take a severance offer, his agreement allowed the phrase to be used - rather than sacked, which is really what has happened.

Give him the job.

I wonder if I am the only person that actually reads a whole thread before posting in it? erm, I've forgot what I wanted to say now..

You take a few hours off from the internet and all hell breaks loose.

Caramel flavoured hemorrhoid cream?

I know what you mean about looking at rejects but our hands are tied pretty much at the moment. The other option is to look at smaller clubs and get their prized assets, however, I am sure there would be many that would criticise that policy as well. THe two players that we have been heavily linked to Brown and Diarra at least are good young players that the clubs that they play for don't really want to leave, its not as if either is on the transfer list. Defoe would be different he doesn't want to leave but again that could work in our favour, if the guy is pushed out he would be even more determined to prove Spurs wrong!! Well thats my positive spin on things anyway!! Brown is 28.

Think Defoe would probably do well in an Allardyce team. Could replace any of our lot and improve it I reckon.

He calls Geremi his second daddy in that video. He's signing for sure. Well, certainly hope his footballing skills don't take after his father. Geremi was alright until he started following Allardyce instructions, took a few weeks and lo he was visibly a poorer player.

You don't think this thread qualifies from the reverse perspective?

Didn't he play against us in the Carling Cup when they beat us 2-0 down there? Edit: Arsenal: Fabianski, Justin Hoyte, Eboue (Diaby 64), Senderos, Traore, Diarra , Denilson, Song Billong, Walcott, Bendtner, Eduardo (Perez 90). Subs Not Used: Mannone, Lansbury, Gavin Hoyte. Goals: Bendtner 83, Denilson 89. Newcastle: Given, Beye, Taylor, Rozehnal, Jose Enrique, Milner (Butt 70), Smith, Faye, N'Zogbia, Ameobi (Emre 60), Martins. Subs Not Used: Forster, Geremi, Edgar. Att: 60,004. Ref: Howard Webb (S Yorkshire).

Been spotted buying a 50" HD plasma at Comet, Kingston Park so he can watch the reserves game tonight, allegedly.

Mrs. P. due home shortly?

I'm noticing it, fuck me if people can't read a few short paragraphs like that no wonder they don't even look at Grass's posts.

Coaching staff: Defensive minded New Players: Defenders Future:

He might be good now and full of further promise, but wait till Sam has had him a month - he'll look just like the rest of our midfield. Class signing rapidly descending into mediocrity, told to win the ball and boot it upfield.

Didn't want to start a new thread, maybe we could rename this Anal Watch or something similar. Posting snippets as he comes out with them. What a shit-stirrer he has become of late..

Well said imo. In terms of entertainment, which is what we would all hope for, Sam's unlikely to deliver - short or long term. I believe the majority of the current negativity has come about from that realisation. In the summer everyone was on a high, the majority at least. Gone was the old regime, new owners and a new manager - positive transformations were the order of all expectations. It's the football that has crashed everyone back to earth. There would be nowhere near the amount of negativity if we had just a few more points on board from watching good games.

I think it's an unfortunate part of modern culture Benwell Lad. These days everything has to be quick. Little soundbytes, lots of glitz, little substance. Everyone is brainwashed into wanting more and wanting it fast.

Would we? I don't think so. If the previous campaign came to the attention of Shepherd then a new one would almost certainly come to the attention of the new regime who have already stated their intention of 'listening'.

Not with Hitzfeld, but if there was a manager out there now that we identified as the most likely to succeed. Would a campaign akin to the previous one have more effect? Shepherd called it a betting scam or something. Would the new owner/chairman listen any differently? My patience with Sam has evaporated despite efforts to maintain it. People are saying he is still a good manager, that you don't become a poor manager overnight. I think he has revealed he's good at what he does and is incapable of change and/or adaptability. You have to work with what you've got and right now he insists on playing something that isn't working. What people say about Sam can also be applied to the players, in fact it's far more applicable. You don't become a poor player overnight, assuming you were a good one in the first place. Even the most jaundiced view would concede the majority of our players are decent or even slightly better than that. They're not playing like that though. Why? Sam even has a clinical psychologist on the team, but there is little sign of teamwork or team spirit. None of us can really claim to be qualified to judge what is wrong as we're not privvy to even half the information we would need to even guess that. But we can all see there is something wrong. And we can also see that it remains wrong, game after game. The man in a position to correct it is not taking any steps to do so. Of course he probably is, but the route he has selected is so long that the incremental steps to improvement are so small as to be invisible. We just see the same thing. Crap football with no creativity or spirit. So we stick with Sam, and 2 full seasons or more from now we are starting to win more than we lose, but the football, ugh! Painkillers all round cannot offset the full effects of it. So if there was to be a change.. could we influence it? Let's face it, in the history of football what club has ever asked the fans whom they should employ as manager. It's maybe about time that was changed.

Am I the only person that sees the sarcasm in... The guy is actually defending our right to complain the way I read it.

Not really all of the time is it? It's becoming more and more frequent. I'm sure Bobby wants what's best for the club but what he's doing is not going to help. Sometimes, having made mistakes in the past is what allows you to see more clearly now.