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That reads like its been converted into English from another language by google translate..

Its like the manager who cried negative, if he is ever positive who's going to believe it happened?

Ok fair enough, I'm going on other peoples opinions at the moment as I had to try to watch the match on my phone with a shitty connection so I saw very little of it. About to watch it all soon though.

Perhaps if we were more posititive from the start of the second half we wouldn't need to try to desperately shore things up?

Nope. Agreed.

At least three teams have done it then.

Spurs and Southampton I think (Southampton in 1998-1999).

Why change the habit of a life time? He always blames someone else.

Pardews heading towards being my most hated Newcastle manager of all time, he's got Souness and Allardyce in front of him but he'll leap frog them if he fucks Ben Arfa off.

Sounds scary until you realise there's never been much of a correlation between the number of points we have after 6 games and where we finish in the league: 95/96 - 15 points - 2nd 96/97 - 12 points - 2nd 97/98 - 12 points - 13th 98/99 - 8 points - 13th 99/00 - 1 point - 11th - Change of manager 00/01 - 10 points - 11th 01/02 - 11 points - 4th 02/03 - 7 points - 3rd - Sir Bobby 03/04 - 3 points - 5th - Sir Bobby 04/05 - 8 points - 14th 05/06 - 5 points - 7th - Change of manager 06/07 - 7 points - 13th 07/08 - 11 points - 12th 08/09 - 4 points - 18th - Relegated 10/11 - 7 points - 12th - Change of manager 11/12 - 12 points - 5th 12/13 - 9 points - 16th Am I right in thinking that your point is that when we have so few points at this stage we either need to change a manager, have Sir Bobby or get relegated? You arent no, as I didnt say other seasons where we've had 7 or less points after 6 games were indicitive of this season. In fact quite the opposite, I said none of them were. Because 6 games is too small a sample for that kind of comparison. Like most people I think we're going to have a bad season if things dont change (most notably the manager). But thats based on much more than our current points total vs other seasons after the same number of games. I mean we could have 10 points now and that wouldnt convince me we're going to have a good season.

Nice thread, though I'm talking purely about comparing one season to another based on one teams points and saying "we had more points after six games that season so we'll finish lower this season". That doesn't work because 6 games is too small a sample to tell you that.

Of course, that's one of the reasons why there's little correlation. Six games is simply too small a sample for comparison.

Sounds scary until you realise there's never been much of a correlation between the number of points we have after 6 games and where we finish in the league: 95/96 - 15 points - 2nd 96/97 - 12 points - 2nd 97/98 - 12 points - 13th 98/99 - 8 points - 13th 99/00 - 1 point - 11th 00/01 - 10 points - 11th 01/02 - 11 points - 4th 02/03 - 7 points - 3rd 03/04 - 3 points - 5th 04/05 - 8 points - 14th 05/06 - 5 points - 7th 06/07 - 7 points - 13th 07/08 - 11 points - 12th 08/09 - 4 points - 18th 10/11 - 7 points - 12th 11/12 - 12 points - 5th 12/13 - 9 points - 16th

Around 8 I know. 80% likely to go down? Aye.. only 56.9% disagree That's your justification? A internet poll where most people probably don't even equate the numbers to real odds/chance. Are you really being serious or am I being wooshed?

Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? He's not playing well enough to get in the national team, you need to be playing better than 1 good game in in 5 to play for your club side never mind your country.

I don't expect a win, but I think we have a decent chance of a win and a very good chance of getting something.

Think we'll win 2-1.

Yep no chance the likes of Gomis will be staying in france for instance. On 56k per week at Lyon right now (apparently), which is the same as £52k per week here. Once the new tax comes in they'd need to pay him 125k per week to give him the same take home pay

Yep, don't let the ball bounce from a long ball (Coloccini) and don't run away from the attacker for no reason (Yanga-Mbiwa), unbelievable simple stuff.

Yeah Ben Arfa had to come off apparently because he just wasn't defending enough according to Neville, that was the reason for our horrendous defending..

Pundits I think he means. Again right now Neville was basically taking any blame away from Pardew.

Did Carragher just try to partially blame Coloccini for our 6:0 loss against Liverpool last season when he wasn't even involved?

Shut-down HBA and you basically shut-down our offense. Strange, we looked much more of a threat in the second half and he wasn't on the pitch. I don't think he meant if you shut down Ben Arfa and then leave every other Newcastle player with acres of space like. Everton really stopped shutting us down in the second half, they seemed to think the game was won already.

He was ineffective tonight but I didn't think he was garbage as such. Just like last season, he was the only outlet. Moving Remy into the middle put all the pressure back onto Hatem; they doubled-up on him and countered him easily. Just woeful tactics from Pardew, as usual. (Plus Seamus Coleman had an absolutely sensational performance - he was man of the match by a distance, for all Sky's ejaculating over Lukaku.) the excuses people will make for hba a crap game is a crap game, and he had one. And the one before that. His shot was the only thing resembling a chance in the first half. now that is awesome. True though isn't it? We were abysmal and he was given no space what so ever because he really was the only option. Wasn't effective, but not a worse performance than 95% of the side and certainly in the second half with more space I'd expect him to create more.

that's why he plays for us and not a top team. He has all the attributes but seems to run hot and cold too many times. Seems to lack the consistency needed to be a true great. Though more than happy to have him here. Can't remember him having two bad games in a row before. Really don't agree with him being inconsistent normally when he plays, to me his inconsistency has been down to injury and when he plays he's pretty much always the leading light, not always 100% effective, but not totally ineffective like he has been for the last two matches. Then again I think in that second half he'd undoubtedly have ended up having a much better game if he'd stayed on.