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If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. I was about to say this like. If you think that the style of football played hasn't had an impact on things then people are naive in the extreme. Sure the money will have got him interested, but the style of football played is a draw for these frenchies (i think Cabaye mentioned it just after we signed him), it would only take 10 mins of Harry filling his lugs with correct information about how we play hoofball and how flowing the football he played as spurs was and that might have sealed it. So yeah when you come down to it, we have two teams battling one another for relegation one offers more money and potentially better football and living in London, the other is a hoofball side with a few poorly used french internationals somewhere in the North. Why on earth would Remy believe anything Redknapp has to say about style of play ect? He'd believe him no more than he would Cabaye or Barton. No idea what the motivation is to try to convince yourself or others that this isn't 95% about the money, but it really is. QPR offer nothing over us outside of London, that's it. We're much better known and more respected in France, much better stadium and facilities, in a better position in the league and have more players he'd know. QPR have a crazy contract offer, no need to pretend otherwise. Read my comments. I don't doubt that money drove the deal, I'm just saying, that as footballing reasons have been mentioned in the press as part of this, it would only take a look at our season so far to realise that we are an awful footballing side, and that by and large Redknapp gets good players to play good football. Ok so the press may be making up lies to help the Harry PR show, or in fact, it could have been part of the reason for rejecting us... Did you expect anything else? Seriously, do you think Remy or anyone connected with him was going to say "I came here because you offered me more money"? No matter what the reason Remy is going to say its all about Football and the press are happy to report that because its Harry. I mean the reports we've seen are basically denying that money had any influence at all, obviously you don't believe that so why believe any of it? I have said a few times now that I think money had a huge role to play. I get your point about him not wanting to come out and say that he went for the best deal, but by the same token it is not unheard of for people to come out and say that though is it? (Ba anyone?) I do think that money obviously had a huge role to play, but I have also said that the way we play football at the moment may have impacted negatively on our offer. If the guy has said that footballing reasons is a factor, then perhaps it is? I'm sure some players are honest enough to admit it, Remy clearly isn't considering the claims coming from his camp that money had nothing to do with it. I see no reason to believe a word he says if he can't at least admit that money has been a major factor in his decision.

Was posted quite a bit earlier, the usual PR bullshit.

If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. I was about to say this like. If you think that the style of football played hasn't had an impact on things then people are naive in the extreme. Sure the money will have got him interested, but the style of football played is a draw for these frenchies (i think Cabaye mentioned it just after we signed him), it would only take 10 mins of Harry filling his lugs with correct information about how we play hoofball and how flowing the football he played as spurs was and that might have sealed it. So yeah when you come down to it, we have two teams battling one another for relegation one offers more money and potentially better football and living in London, the other is a hoofball side with a few poorly used french internationals somewhere in the North. Why on earth would Remy believe anything Redknapp has to say about style of play ect? He'd believe him no more than he would Cabaye or Barton. No idea what the motivation is to try to convince yourself or others that this isn't 95% about the money, but it really is. QPR offer nothing over us outside of London, that's it. We're much better known and more respected in France, much better stadium and facilities, in a better position in the league and have more players he'd know. QPR have a crazy contract offer, no need to pretend otherwise. Exactly, it's amazing the way people are prepared to build up our rivals in every way and put ourselves down. The fact that QPR are now considered rivals has probably got a lot to do with it. If we were in the top 10 don't you think it might have made a difference? If a club is perceived to be on the way up it is an attraction in it's own right. QPR are allowing him to leave for nowt if they're relegated. So I don't think being a bit higher in the league would make much difference. Not between two teams fighting relegation no. But that's kind of my point. Fair enough I see what you're saying. My point was just that us being higher in the league might not mean too much with QPR removing relegation as a negative. If QPR are relegated Remy can move somewhere else for nowt and get a nice big signing on fee and big wages again since he'll be a free transfer. I really think that clause is as big a reason for this as the extra cash. Had they refused to offer it and instead done the sensible thing and asked for a relegation wage drop I think he'd still be on his way here.

If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. I was about to say this like. If you think that the style of football played hasn't had an impact on things then people are naive in the extreme. Sure the money will have got him interested, but the style of football played is a draw for these frenchies (i think Cabaye mentioned it just after we signed him), it would only take 10 mins of Harry filling his lugs with correct information about how we play hoofball and how flowing the football he played as spurs was and that might have sealed it. So yeah when you come down to it, we have two teams battling one another for relegation one offers more money and potentially better football and living in London, the other is a hoofball side with a few poorly used french internationals somewhere in the North. Why on earth would Remy believe anything Redknapp has to say about style of play ect? He'd believe him no more than he would Cabaye or Barton. No idea what the motivation is to try to convince yourself or others that this isn't 95% about the money, but it really is. QPR offer nothing over us outside of London, that's it. We're much better known and more respected in France, much better stadium and facilities, in a better position in the league and have more players he'd know. QPR have a crazy contract offer, no need to pretend otherwise. Read my comments. I don't doubt that money drove the deal, I'm just saying, that as footballing reasons have been mentioned in the press as part of this, it would only take a look at our season so far to realise that we are an awful footballing side, and that by and large Redknapp gets good players to play good football. Ok so the press may be making up lies to help the Harry PR show, or in fact, it could have been part of the reason for rejecting us... Do you think Remy or anyone connected with him was going to say "I came here because you offered me more money"? No matter what the reason Remy is going to say its all about Football and the press are happy to report that because its Harry. I mean the reports we've seen are basically denying that money had any influence at all, obviously you don't believe that so why believe any of it?

If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. I was about to say this like. If you think that the style of football played hasn't had an impact on things then people are naive in the extreme. Sure the money will have got him interested, but the style of football played is a draw for these frenchies (i think Cabaye mentioned it just after we signed him), it would only take 10 mins of Harry filling his lugs with correct information about how we play hoofball and how flowing the football he played as spurs was and that might have sealed it. So yeah when you come down to it, we have two teams battling one another for relegation one offers more money and potentially better football and living in London, the other is a hoofball side with a few poorly used french internationals somewhere in the North. Why on earth would Remy believe anything Redknapp has to say about style of play ect? He'd believe him no more than he would Cabaye or Barton. No idea what the motivation is to try to convince yourself or others that this isn't 95% about the money, but it really is. QPR offer nothing over us outside of London, that's it. We're much better known and more respected in France, much better stadium and facilities, in a better position in the league and have more players he'd know. QPR have a crazy contract offer, no need to pretend otherwise. Exactly, it's amazing the way people are prepared to build up our rivals in every way and put ourselves down. The fact that QPR are now considered rivals has probably got a lot to do with it. If we were in the top 10 don't you think it might have made a difference? If a club is perceived to be on the way up it is an attraction in it's own right. QPR are allowing him to leave for nowt if they're relegated. So I don't think being a bit higher in the league would make much difference.

That's some kind of way to remove debt isn't it? I'm not sure Man City have any debt.

If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. I was about to say this like. If you think that the style of football played hasn't had an impact on things then people are naive in the extreme. Sure the money will have got him interested, but the style of football played is a draw for these frenchies (i think Cabaye mentioned it just after we signed him), it would only take 10 mins of Harry filling his lugs with correct information about how we play hoofball and how flowing the football he played as spurs was and that might have sealed it. So yeah when you come down to it, we have two teams battling one another for relegation one offers more money and potentially better football and living in London, the other is a hoofball side with a few poorly used french internationals somewhere in the North. Why on earth would Remy believe anything Redknapp has to say about style of play ect? He'd believe him no more than he would Cabaye or Barton. No idea what the motivation is to try to convince yourself or others that this isn't 95% about the money, but it really is. QPR offer nothing over us outside of London, that's it. We're much better known and more respected in France, much better stadium and facilities, in a better position in the league and have more players he'd know. QPR have a crazy contract offer, no need to pretend otherwise.

If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. Yeah QPR are bottom of the league on 14 points but they've got two good results recently so its a great Footballing move How can you be sure he'd ignore any crazy offer from QPR if we were playing better BTW? I mean I really doubt Cabaye (who Remy phoned to ask about Newcastle) gave us a bad review and it sounds like everyone else who spoke to told him it was right to come here (Barton ect). You have no idea how he thinks. All we do know is that by all indications he was happy with personal terms here until QPR's offer that by all accounts seems to be around twice that of our own plus a relegation release clause (that last bit its probably quite important as it removes the possibility of relegation as a negative).

A week ago he wouldn't even speak to the manager who had tried to buy him before.

I don't get this Sulia thing like, but this is from Duncan Castles, a sports journo for the Sunday Times and others. Here come Redknapps mates in full PR mode. I suppose Remy forgot how great Redknapp was when he refused to even speak to him earlier? Of course he must have remembered right about the time QPR came in with a £80k per week offer.

Not perhaps the reason, just not a positive attraction. You have to SELL the club better to potential players. I find it hard to believe QPR offered such a ridiculous deal. Then again, with Redknapp's devious financial skullduggery with other people money...... See ? Already £30,000 less than the quoted QPR deal What quoted QPR deal? Most sources say they've offered between £70-£80k (96k Euro's was another report which is the same amount in pounds) while our deal was initially reported as being basically agreed at £40k.

£30m a year isn't it for the sponsorship of everything they own (shirt, stadium, campus thingy). Its definitely inflated (£10m a year maybe?), but they're going to have to do a hell of a lot more fiddling then that to support even a quarter of the spending they've been doing over the past few years. No its never going to be fair, but hopefully its never going to be as unfair as its been recently at the height of the Chelsea and Man City spending.

Lets hijack Redknapp's car and drive it off a fucking bridge instead.

Man City's spending has been reducing: Season 08/09 - £113m net Season 09/10 - £99m net Season 10/11 - £116m net Season 11/12 - £48m net Season 12/13 - £31m net It'll be interesting to see what they spend next year if they don't win the league.

They haven't come into effect yet so we really don't know exactly how they'll affect any club. it has, Malaga kicked out of europe for one season and fined €350k odd which I find a strange punishment when finances are bad to begin with They haven't reviewed this league yet based on all the current years financials though surely? no that part is ongoing as far as I'm aware but it will mean fuck all, see all the sudden huge sponsorships PSG Chelsea and City are pulling from shockingly enough companys located where the owners of the respective clubs are from There's a difference between it been 100% effective and meaning fuck all though. For instance none of those sponsorship deals are anywhere near inflated enough to allow any of these clubs to continue to spend whatever they want. EDIT: The SUN, what can I say, I don't have the words to describe the contempt I have for that fucking rag.

They haven't come into effect yet so we really don't know exactly how they'll affect any club. I know they haven't, supposed to be implemented next season aren't they? Clubs mustn't be fearing it though, QPR already have an apparently terrible wages to turnover ratio and were needing to cut back as of 2 weeks ago, and yet they can go and spunk money still. Maybe they think its worth the risk when the alternative is relegation and missing out on the massive increase in TV revenue next year? I don't know but I'm just not prepared to assume nothing will be done before we even see the beginnings of these regulations.

They haven't come into effect yet so we really don't know exactly how they'll affect any club. it has, Malaga kicked out of europe for one season and fined €350k odd which I find a strange punishment when finances are bad to begin with They haven't reviewed this league yet based on all the current years financials though surely?

They haven't come into effect yet so we really don't know exactly how they'll affect any club.

Yeah he chose the capital apparently.. nothing to do with the £40k extra per week.

Can't see any German club coming close to matching those kind of wages unfortunately.

Nope, they said the same thing at 12. Just teasy bullshit. What the fuck have I done like?

I blame you, I wanted to add him but wouldn't until it was confirmed, the power of FIFA is all encompassing.

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg Source?, the numbers look very odd even at first glance. http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html All the transfers are there. Knock yourself out. Yep doesn't add up at all. Just for example they have QPR as only selling players for the amount of £850k over the last 5 seasons. Yet they've sold 13 players for fees in that time and just two of those come to 750k, they're just not including any fees that were undisclosed because they didn't know the fee at the time. I don't doubt we'll be near the bottom of that table, but the source itself isn't very accurate.

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. Source? Tell me, who else in this league would offer Remy £80k+? You're going on as if QPR are one of the lesser paying clubs and we can't even compete with them, bollocks quite frankly. It's not bollocks. I reckon a club like Sunderland vastly outspends us terms of wage total and maximum wage their structure will allow. So you believe Sunderland would match QPR's offer? QPR are currently one of the most mental teams in the league for offering crazy wages and clauses, yet you're talking as if it should be easy to compete with them. We can offer those wages, we can do that if we wanted, but its a fucking stupid thing to do.