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He didn't have a great game, in a team of poor performers, but was still better then the rest. He can't be really good every game, he's a much better player then Faye though and Gutierrez is a very good player as well.

As I said, he isn't going to write off a penny. Not a penny. Letting us rot (wasting our season) will not lose him a penny. What makes you think it would? It will like, Owen leaving will drop the value of the club by 10-15 million on its own. Then what happens if we get relegated, not that I think for a second we would, but lets say we're left managerless all season and the injuries stay bad, its possible and would quarter the price of the club, or worse. The club is an asset that has a certain value. That value will not be affected by (as I say) letting us rot for a season or two or three. I agree, if we were relegated it would, but I am sure that they will do enough (just enough) to ensure that does not happen. Not really, the value of a Football club can change very easily depending on success, playing staff and revenue and many other factors. As I said Owen going for nowt would chop at least £10 million of the value of the club. Season ticket sales dropping in half next season would drop far more off the value, and it would happen in the case you're talking about. Right now he might be able to get £250 million for us, leave the club to rot for a few seasons and he can forget at least £100 million of that as the likes of Owen, Martins, Given ect leave, the team continually flirts with relegation and the fans either stop turning up almost completely or end up murdering the fucker

Don't fall for that subsidise bollocks man. Also have you seen the state of our team at the moment, yes our squad quality has improved a bit this season, but we needed much more. Something Keegan told them no doubt, but Wise and his mates knew better..

As I said, he isn't going to write off a penny. Not a penny. Letting us rot (wasting our season) will not lose him a penny. What makes you think it would? It will like, Owen leaving will drop the value of the club by 10-15 million on its own. Then what happens if we get relegated, not that I think for a second we would, but lets say we're left managerless all season and the injuries stay bad, its possible and would quarter the price of the club, or worse. Nope Ashley wouldn't risk losing £1.50 to get revenge on Newcastle fans, never mind millions of pounds.

Why?, it doesn't fucking go to the club anyway, it goes straight into Ashley's pocket, and don't think for a second his ludicrous sale price will drop by £2 million accordingly either!

Pathetic isn't it, some people deserve the shit that's happening here, fickle tossers the lot. Its just unfortunate that everyone has to suffer along with them.

He could easily pick a better team even from the squad we have though!

Hopefully he'll start today, I'm quite excited to see him for a full game, but I just get the feeling he won't start.

Its spot on to be fair. Unfunny bollocks IMO, apart from the McClaren bit which was actually funny.

Hold on- i thought the arsenal system we were trying to adopt was the investemtn in youth and making them stars not the actual structure. System which seemed to be going well so far. The way i see it is a hybrid of the Arsenal/Spurs structure and sytem. But that isn't a system really, its just buying some young talented players and trying to develop them, which most clubs do, its only part of an overall system/structure. He keeps talking about the Arsenal system, but in fact what he was trying to do wasn't really like their system. Its just the easy option to keep pointing at Arsenal and saying "Look that's what we're trying to do".

So this week we'll hit those odds since Hughton will still be in charge and for the second week running? Also Keegan must have won the lottery 16 times in the last 8 months Sorry just being pedantic but its not actually true is it

You say overrate, but tell me who else at the club can score goals like Owen can? well mate, for a start, how does the performance of our other strikers relate to Owen's ability? as for your question, Viduka is basically a 1 in 2 man when fit, the rest cant really compete just yet although Martins and Xisco are well on the way (like Xisco a lot, saw him a bit last season) Owen is our best goalscorer but that doesn't make him a world class footballer, far from it. He isn't even a world class goalscorer really, not when you look at the records of certain players. Remember, cousin Michael has never hit the big 20 in a campaign Owen's overall club record is better then 1 goal every 2 games, the fact that he hasn't scored 20 Premiership goals in a season is down to the fact he's rarely played a full season, in fact I doubt he ever has. Also its hardly fair to use being injury prone against Owen and then give Viduka the benefit of "when fit". As for Viduka vs Owen, here's there overall record in England: Owen - 1 goal every 1.92 games Viduka - 1 goal every 2.43 games And in the Premiership only: Owen - 1 goal every 1.98 games Viduka - 1 goal every 2.47 games And for Newcastle: Owen - 1 goal every 2.42 games Viduka - 1 goal every 3.71 games When both are fit Owen's easily the better striker, very easily now that Viduka's getting on. Owen's record also shows that he's a world class striker IMO.

Says who?

It doesn't work like that unfortunately. A club with next to know debt could increase dramatically in value (beyond the value of the debt that has been paid off). In theory, our value could come close to Man Utd and Arsenal because although we don;t have as much going for us on the playing side, when people invest or buy a business they normally look at the financial side first and foremost. Paying off £110 of debt cannot raise the price of a business by £300 million, our value is nowhere near Manures or Arsenals mate, being free of debt isn't that important..

Care to explain how paying off £110m of debt, isn't subsidising the club? I've heard about 4 different amounts now The guy paid the debt off to maximise saleability. The debt we had was stable, like most of the other top premier league clubs who are in large amounts of debt (Arsenal, liverpool, manu). He paid that debt only because when he bought the club that action triggered the debt to be paid, as you say it was a perfectly stable extremely long term debt, like a mortgage on a house.

That's three potential buyers two of wich have complained that Ashley isn't prepared to negotiate. There's nothing wrong with having a set price and sticking to it but when you are asking for double what most analysts consider is reasonable, you would at least expect some give and take. Ambani flew back complaining it was impossible to reach Ashley to have any meaningful discussions, now the Arabs are saying Ashley won't even listen to lower offers. He's certainly not desperate to sell that's for certain. That happened before the club was up for sale.

One poor and rather unlucky result against Hull doesn't mean we're relegation fodder all of a sudden for fuck sake! We had eight first team players out but we still created chances and scored a goal. By the way some are talking you'd think we've just gone on a 6 game losing streak or looked absolutely hopeless against Hull, neither is true. With a few players back (the likes of Gutierrez, Martins ect) we'll do ok even if Hughton stays as caretaker for the rest of the season, there's nothing at all to worry about on that score. As it is we might have a new owner tomorrow for all we know, so lets not panic there either.

I don't remember a mass protest on the level we've seen at Newcastle over the last couple of weeks no, have I forgotten it happened?, seriously?

Maybe it would have been as easy to get Ellis out had you actually tried to remove him, just a thought there. As for the last line, does not compute just about sums up your point. You seem to be saying that because some people think he's a business man with no attachment to the club they shouldn't complain about him actually being a businessman with no attachment to the club, how does that make sense? Those people simply feel that they've now been proven right.

Of course he's not willing to lose the whole lot, do you think he's f'ing mental or what? We're talking about hundreds of millions of pounds here.

All the same aren't they? At least funded by the same guy. The fan buyout is the most appealing, IMO. Similar to the Barcelona set up, hopefully. Difference is, Barca fans generally aren't charver morons. Yeah I'm sure all Barca fans are geniuses.. they speak Spanish after all so they could never be idiots And Catalan. See, they speak two languages, they're fucking geniuses I tell you!

But I'm being serious!, honestly!

All the same aren't they? At least funded by the same guy. The fan buyout is the most appealing, IMO. Similar to the Barcelona set up, hopefully. Difference is, Barca fans generally aren't charver morons. Yeah I'm sure all Barca fans are geniuses.. they speak Spanish after all so they could never be idiots

That Hitler video has one funny bit about McClaren, the rest was pretty unfunny IMO.

Probably because he was told he'd be attacked which to be fair is embarrassing as fuck on us lot. How can you be embarrassed by someone saying something about the fans? "Manure fans will try to murder Fergie tomorrow", oh I bet they must be really embarrassed now!