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Don't know if its been posted or not, but we've actually killed Spidey's own web site http://www.jonasgutierrez.com/

Just seen it mentioned in another thread that while a player can pay off his contract and leave after three years the club he goes to also has to pay the same amount to the club he's leaving. So in effect the club the player leaves would get twice the worth of the remaining contract. Does anyone know if it definitely works like this? If so its much more reasonable then I first thought.

Can't see Barca selling him to be honest.

Maetihs?..

Indeed there are many courts, but you can appeal an counter-appeal, and it is these two courts who ultimately make the final decisions regardless of what gets said elsewhere. I just think that after enough cases are brought by clubs themselves this ruling will be re-thought, its too idiotic not to be BTW which two courts are you actually referring to? CAS is obviously the Court of Arbitration for Sport, what's the other?

FIFA have taken it to court perhaps, but there are many courts and many clubs out there who won't accept this. The Bosman ruling is one thing, it actually makes sense and was always going to be accepted, this ruling doesn't make sense and won't be accepted IMO.

It is out of FIFA's hands, it is the EU which has forced this clause into FIFA law, and it is the CAS that has enforced it. Well whoevers done it, there idiots.. I can see a lot of court cases coming from this ruling, evenually ending in the ruling being changed.

To me this is a stupid ruling. It just encourages wages to get even more out of hand in order to put players off from having to pay out there contracts. How can FIFA, or anyone else, ignore the actual transfer fee being paid?..

Even though I think Drogba will leave that team is seriously scary and with Big Phil in charge it will never be boring. You mean the same big phil who instructs his teams to sit back and wait for pens every single time they reach a knockout stage of any competition?

15 million is alot of money i would accept it for most of our players wether good or not That would be 15 million Euro's (£11.9 million). I doubt we've paid that much though since he seems to have bought out his contract with Mallorca.. then again apparently he was co-owned by Sarsfield as well, so who knows.

had he been on loan there for 3 years and how could he buy himself out of his mallorca contract ? I have no idea, just wrote what the swedish fan site mentioned in a article about him leaving, that they could not afford to buy him after his 2 year loan deal ended and that Vélez Sársfield wantel 8m euros for him.. From what I've heard he's co-owned by Mallorca and Sarsfield but was due to go back to play for Sarsfield unless Mallorca could find the money to buy the rest of his registration.

Does this mean Maetihs is now banned?.. considering the bet he agreed to? Or does a young Argie international not count?

Total bullshit.

A bit like Real Madrid announcing they would like Ronaldo? Yeh but Madrid are reported to have signed agreements with Ronaldo etc - that is tapping up. Real Madrid simply saying they want Ronaldo isn't, nor is Redknapp saying he'd like SWP. Signing actual contracts with a player without the permision of there club is just a little bit more then tapping up like Tapping up is talking to a player, either directly or indirectly, about a move without the blessing of the players club.

Bjarni Gudjonsson

Knowing him it's probably double that. These are just some of the funds people can see remember. When did you meet him like?

Basically my opinion on Viduka is this. If Keegan believes he can play the majority of our games next season (30-40) then IMO he should be kept for one more season. But if he thinks he'll only manage another 20 or even less (with his current injury) then we should do our best to affload him, after finding a replacement obviously.

A goal every three games isn't really that great.. Even a striker who only scores 1 in every 4 games over 50 apearences is going to score more then one who scores 1 in every 3 but can only play 20 games. Also consistently good when fit isn't consistent. Wether he's inconstent through being s*** most games or through not being fit he still hasn't been consistent. IMO the difference is one of reliability.. Which is why Viduka is a backup, because he can't be relied upon to be anything more. I'd bet only Ashton will be earning anything near the amount Viduka is (mostly because West Ham have gone as nuts as we've been lately), and if we signed any of the three I wouldn't offer them more then £45,000 at the very most. Its only the going rate at this crazy club, nowhere else, or it was anyway hopefully not anymore. That's why we have a completely obsene wage bill, because we've been paying players twice what there worth for years.

So you agree that Taylor is one of the worst defenders in the Premiership then? Come off it, he's not great by any means but he's far from one of the worst.

Where do they get £1.3 billion from? I'm sure these papers just randomly make these numbers up (it was £860 million last time I saw it mentioned..).

Chelsea I just think this is over the top. It's so simple. Shola and Smith are crap, so sell. Carroll is young and doesn't seem all that so loan. Then by 1 or 2 more strikers. The problem with Viduka and why we all notice his injury record is because we depend on him, because those who play in his place are awful (see above). We clearly need to keep Viduka because when he's fit, he scores a few, and his contribution to our attacking play is immense. Physically slow but mentally so much quicker than loads of defenders in the league, clearly got a goo dthing going on with Martins and Owen. Fair enough, he's on fat wages, but there are so many players at our club who are on huge money and should go before him: Smith, Duff, Barton, I presume Cacapa gets a lot of money, Smith, Smith, Smith, Smith. Everyone agrees we should get rid of Smith, Duff and most agree on Barton (including me). But Viduka has to go as well IMO, of course unlike the aforementioned useless twats I would want a replacement for him guarenteed first. The fact that Chelsea are the only other club you can think of that would pay a backup player that kind of money should tell you how f***ing insane it is that we're paying Viduka £65,000 per week. IMO the only way we should keep him for another season is if we can't get a suitable replacement (or if we can't get rid of him of course).

Arshavins got his move now so he doesn't need to play.. lazy disloyal twat (of course I'm not bitter ).

A step down? Are you trying to do a maetihs or what?..

Well if he really is the new Wayne Rooney we can expect him to be starting for the first team by the end of the season

Where's Turan BTW?