Beren

Feel free to change it We usually play better against the "bigger" sides, so hopefully we'll at the very least see the hunger and appetite which we so desperately lacked today. Much more optimistic about it, even though we haven't been Liverpool in donkey's years.

Assuming Barton and Nolan will be back for this one, who do we start?

Negative goal difference again. FML.

The attitude of some the players walking about the pitch today was sickening - Hughton isn't exempt from criticism on that point, but the difference in attitude was a major factor today. Four big players out today (five if you include old Benny) and man did it ever show.

Agreed.

I'd agree with that apart from Tiote who I'd give a 6. He was where he was supposed to be, doing what he was supposed to do, but there was just no one for him to pass to who wasn't within a 10m radius of him. All in all, really depressing stuff. Really embarrassing making such an average WBA side look so good. Can't wait for Nolan, Barton, Colo and Williamson to get back.

Well, Loven did do well against Championship sides

Actually quite funny

Wow. That was a terrible half. Thought we'd miss Barton going into this, but the person we've missed most is Nolan IMO. A midfielder willing to go forward and give the opposition something to worry about. Really losing patience with Guthrie - he's the new Jermaine Jenas without any of the fitness, sideways passes all day until we lose possession and then he becomes an even bigger passenger. Chance to redeem himself with a set piece delivery and he ballses it up. Routledge anonymous. Given our lack of options on bench, were it not for my faith in Hughton, I'd be tempted to take a 1-0 loss at this point. Seriously depressing half, and their fitness looks top class compared to ours. Thank fuck for Jose or we'd be dead and buried.

Don't want West Ham to get any points, even if that means Sunderland winning.. Same, especially if a loss would end their "comeback".

Groin injury

I wouldn't say that the FA is corrupt but the extent to which it is influenced by the media over retrospective trial-by-MOTD-footage makes me think that there is some karma to this. That's right! Single out NUFC players and let Cahill, Jara, Cattermole etc etc walk and pay the consequences of my snug and snide potshots from an internet forum!

Hope it's nothing serious - we can still get a result here.

Would have thought so, similar counter-attack qualities with Routledge and Jonas out wide.

Shit.

As in correct score.

Oh shit, 3-1* My bad

888sport

Carroll FGS + Newcastle win @ 130/1

Carroll will be eager to get back to the top scorer league - I'll say he'll get four today.

We can always trust Barca-1 and Real Madrid-1. Ended up with a little profit today. [Mind you I only got odds of 5/1]

CRonaldo 2 - 0 Valencia

Valencia 1 man down and Cronaldo strikes with a decent finish.

Pretty open game, could go either way at this point.