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Could be a hinderance rather than a plus. Could be argued he has been playing for his place last few games hence the marked improvement and now he'll revert to being hit/miss I know what you're saying but no way can legs in midfield be a hindrance at this club atm. Proved what he's capable of yesterday Didn't mean it like that. I meant in terms of form/effort/application from him. I don't doubt we need him in the team.

I'd be f***ing furious if we did. One of them will go it's inevitable and can't blame the player or club for whichever leaves. Possibly if they fulfil their potential but I'd hope it would be after 2011/12 season at least. Hopefully Harper will jog on at the end of this and leave them to fight it out for the number 1 spot. Although I like Krul purely from a selfish POV I'd prefer to see Forster make it with him being a local lad.

I'd be fucking furious if we did.

IF you wish to stay in the PL, the answer is YES, you DO have to create ENOUGH chances against all but the best sides - we are NOT. You may think Stoke are the UK answer to Catenaccio but I don't ; they are a physical side who we would have blown away in the mid-90s. Are you a spin doctor? ------ and what the hell has that got to do with anything? You really are struggling now, aren't you ? A Spin Doctor ? On what planet do you live ? Spin Doctors are people employed by New Labour ; I thought this was a football forum.....do you know what Catenaccio is(or was ?), Probably not because you are too young, but it was the art of defensive football perfected by Inter Milan in the 60's/70s- believe me, Stoke are NO Inter and if you can't see that instead of bigging them up to be a team we should be glad to squeeze a narrow defeat from, then its no wonder that people think the fans of this club are easily conned - you bring low expectation down to a new level - congratulations ! If you could point out where I said Stoke were the equivliant of Catenaccio and also please remind me where did i say the part highlighted because I'm fairly certain I didn't. And like a spin doctor you've taken what I said and twisted it further than I could have imagined to fit your agenda.

Like Holland did during the WC final?

IF you wish to stay in the PL, the answer is YES, you DO have to create ENOUGH chances against all but the best sides - we are NOT. You may think Stoke are the UK answer to Catenaccio but I don't ; they are a physical side who we would have blown away in the mid-90s. Are you a spin doctor? ------ and what the hell has that got to do with anything?

How many saves from direct shots can you remember opposition keepers making in the past 3 PL games ? 4 on target v City (1 less than city) 7 on target v Stoke (more than stoke) 4 on target v Everton (more than Everton) I ask again - how many SAVES did we force their keeper to make ? Come on, stop hiding behind make-believe stats that can be made to prove anything. I cannot recall the Stoke keeper having to make more than 2 serious saves in the game - EXCLUDING the pen.How many saves did Everton's keeper make? Statistics could, if wanted, prove that a clearance by Krul was an 'attempt' on goal - doesn't mean he has a cat in hell's chance of scoring, does it? Unless we are forcing opposition keepers to save shots, we are NOT threatening their goal - defenders are there to block goal attempts, goal keepers are the last line. If you believe these stats, can you pls list the saves made by the keepers - and from whom - in the games you have listed ? Surely you're not that stupid. Shots on target - number of goals scored = number of saves Can you read ? I asked you to name the player who had the shots saved...what does 'number of goals scored; have to do with anything ? We scored ONE against Everton, ONE against Stoke(a pen) and ONE against City...how is this related to SAVES by opposition keepers ? You also asked the question that i have answered. TBH I can't remember who had shots as I don't have a hard-drive for a memory unfortunately.

How many saves from direct shots can you remember opposition keepers making in the past 3 PL games ? 4 on target v City (1 less than city) 7 on target v Stoke (more than stoke) 4 on target v Everton (more than Everton) I ask again - how many SAVES did we force their keeper to make ? Come on, stop hiding behind make-believe stats that can be made to prove anything. I cannot recall the Stoke keeper having to make more than 2 serious saves in the game - EXCLUDING the pen.How many saves did Everton's keeper make? Statistics could, if wanted, prove that a clearance by Krul was an 'attempt' on goal - doesn't mean he has a cat in hell's chance of scoring, does it? Unless we are forcing opposition keepers to save shots, we are NOT threatening their goal - defenders are there to block goal attempts, goal keepers are the last line. If you believe these stats, can you pls list the saves made by the keepers - and from whom - in the games you have listed ? Surely you're not that stupid. Shots on target - number of goals scored = number of saves

Twente could have done with him against Spurs t'other day.

http://img.skysports.com/09/08/218x298/David-Edwards-Wolverhampton-Wanderers-Scuntho_2346451.jpg and his team mate http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/13/article-1077258-028C841900000578-769_468x680.jpg

Could be a hinderance rather than a plus. Could be argued he has been playing for his place last few games hence the marked improvement and now he'll revert to being hit/miss

Are you expecting us to be creating fuck loads of easy chances against those three teams like? Arguably three of the more organised defensive set ups in the league

How many saves from direct shots can you remember opposition keepers making in the past 3 PL games ? 4 on target v City (1 less than city) 7 on target v Stoke (more than stoke) 4 on target v Everton (more than Everton)

I'd be pretty angry at Torres if i was a scouser. Been playing like he couldn't give a toss at the moment.

I know you love being OTT but you can't even to begin to compare Guthrie and De Jong's tackles man.

I thought it worked alright actually. Squeezed the game in the middle of the park and showed their midfield up as lacking creativity and the ability to play quick one touch football.

Aye gold/yellow or black and white

with Sparta Rotterdam manager Jan Everse saying: "He needs to see a mental doctor." Surely he'd be better off seeing a sane one.

It'd be exactly the same on here if Darren Bent fucked himself.

Fingers crossed he'll be alreet, as i think i said in the match thread it looked precautionary rather than serious. Fingers crossed he'll be back for Wigan as he is on top form this season, Pleat was waxing lyrical about him on Sunday.

I like it.

Eugh sickly PR.

Gareth Barry who had an excellent game? Guess which person named Alan Hansen didn't watch the game?

Spence posted a link earlier.

Adam Johnson is class like, how the fuck he didn't start is beyond me although i guess he ain't a DM.