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Notice any similarities? Talk about a fucking inferiority complex.

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I don't think he was a 4-4-2 player due to his lack of pace, especially in the middle. If he had a couple of players around him doing the donkey work, that would have suited him better. Hell of a left-foot on him though. Yeah, I agree there and he wasn't a big strong type either so playing in the middle of a 4-4-2 was even more of a problem when he wasn't pacey or box-to-box type either. I think you could have played him as a deep lying playmaker or in a more advance role in a midfield 3/5. Either way though you'd have to question 1) Why Robson bought him 2) why he wouldn't give him a chance when Jenas was out of form (for several months) & 3) why he wouldn't let him move on sooner. Funnily enough, I think he could have done quite well in Owen's current role. I'm not sure Viana would be making late runs into the box to try and sniff out a goal though. Granted, but as a link man he'd be pretty good at putting through the strikers. Maybe you'd need someonemore mobile than Viduka in that case though.

I don't think he was a 4-4-2 player due to his lack of pace, especially in the middle. If he had a couple of players around him doing the donkey work, that would have suited him better. Hell of a left-foot on him though. Yeah, I agree there and he wasn't a big strong type either so playing in the middle of a 4-4-2 was even more of a problem when he wasn't pacey or box-to-box type either. I think you could have played him as a deep lying playmaker or in a more advance role in a midfield 3/5. Either way though you'd have to question 1) Why Robson bought him 2) why he wouldn't give him a chance when Jenas was out of form (for several months) & 3) why he wouldn't let him move on sooner. Funnily enough, I think he could have done quite well in Owen's current role.

His judgement was backed with numerous players, probably most players he wanted on the face of it, some were great successes, some were not. I agree with you, re backing the manager, but you have to accept that sometimes it may not be financially possible otherwise you have to accept that NOT accepting this means you can't then complain if the club "overspends" ? Do you see the point ? I see the point, you are saying the club as a whole has to count it's beans accordingly. Obviously we, as a club with an ambitious board needed to employ bean-counters to work out which players we could afford. Even though Man City were an inferior club, they could afford to pay a few peanuts more, for which I commend them. If we offered to pay him in beans and he wanted paying in peanuts it's no wonder he signed for Man City. City are by no means an inferior club, they are a similar sized club to us with similar support base and similar potential. Yet they have spent nowhere near what we have in the Premiership until last year when we both got new owners/chairmen. They were in a far bigger financial hole before their takeover than we were before ours. The fact that you are commending their previous financial dealings says a lot about the worth of your opinions on such matters. Seeing as you seem to parrot everything NE5 says you can just read my reply to him.

His judgement was backed with numerous players, probably most players he wanted on the face of it, some were great successes, some were not. I agree with you, re backing the manager, but you have to accept that sometimes it may not be financially possible otherwise you have to accept that NOT accepting this means you can't then complain if the club "overspends" ? Do you see the point ? I see the point, you are saying the club as a whole has to count it's beans accordingly. Obviously we, as a club with an ambitious board needed to employ bean-counters to work out which players we could afford. Even though Man City were an inferior club, they could afford to pay a few peanuts more, for which I commend them. You are talking about one player, and making a case for one player moving to a differnet club because of an agenda with a personality. Your initial comments prove this completely. Man City found the money to buy this one player at the time, of course they did, but which of the 2 clubs ie us and Man City, backed the managers the most, acheived the most qualifications for europe. You can't say that Man City were better and bigger than us on the basis of siging ONE player, without looking at the overall performance of both clubs Basically, if any Man City fan would swap their last decade for ours, then they are a bloody idiot.. And this is the bigger picture. I am talking about a player who I really rated during his spell here, who Robson wanted to sign who then was allowed to sign for Man City instead due to in your own words a bean counter in the board room. If we didn't have enough beans, how come we splurged £5m worth on Bramble? There were other players Robson wanted but was denied, like Miguel - we got Carr instead. Fair enough we went for the cheaper option which I don't object to if the funds aren't there. I hope that last sentence registered. I am not the one who first used the term 'bean counter' with regard to a Chairman. Personally I reckon if someone is putting the beans in, they are entitled to count them in any case. It seems fantastically hypocritical to accuse one person of being a bean counter and then defending someone else for doing the exact same thing.

He understood he needed our money better than Gullitt. What a great bloke.

Where's the Lord Westwood or McKeag option for NE5's sake?

His judgement was backed with numerous players, probably most players he wanted on the face of it, some were great successes, some were not. I agree with you, re backing the manager, but you have to accept that sometimes it may not be financially possible otherwise you have to accept that NOT accepting this means you can't then complain if the club "overspends" ? Do you see the point ? I see the point, you are saying the club as a whole has to count it's beans accordingly. Obviously we, as a club with an ambitious board needed to employ bean-counters to work out which players we could afford. Even though Man City were an inferior club, they could afford to pay a few peanuts more, for which I commend them.

The difference being a good manager came in after Allardyce who got the best out of those players, Souness was followed by Glenn Roeder who didn't get the best out of anyone. Who's to say how the likes of Parker, Solano, Luque etc would have done for us under Keegan's management? That team finished 7th under Roeder. He was an improvement over Souness. You could have put Homer Simpson in charge after Souness and we'd still have finished 7th. That was just the players starting to perform out of relief.

Is Boussaffa left-footed then?

Spot on. Can't believe he's had 10 times as many votes as Roeder. If Allardyce had stayed we would have ended up with a fairly functional team hovering around the top 6-10 given time. We'd become what Bolton did after 8 years. I voted Souness FWIW.

Dear God, commit suicide and do the world a favour you sad mackem twat.

He plays like one as well these days so I hear.

I don't object to a coach imparting some discipline and formation to his team, that's what he was good at. Unfortunately it looks like this stuff is more suited to lower league sides attempting to nullify better teams. Or in Allardyce's case nullifying worse teams as well in case they miraculously tear us apart on the break if we cross the halfway line.

He's scored a massive 8 goals for us, so not sure why it's so important to find a goalscoring left sided player. I'd much rather have one who can cross consistently, and set the strikers up. Stats are all well and good but I use my own eyes, and the lad can score goals. Given a run in a forward position I'll bet his strike rate would improve as well. As far as crossing consistently, he's one of the best crossers we've got IMO. He doesn't float them up uselessly like Milner tends top, he whips them in fast and dipping - very difficult to defend. The only point I agree with you is consistently setting the strikers up, as like Keegan says, his team play could be better.

I think he is as good as some people think he is, I certainly don't think finding a replacement will be easy. Good left sided midfielders that score goals aren't common as England managers have found for the last few years. We've got round this with the 4-3-3 system but you need the option of a wide left player as well. Whether he goes or stays is a different issue. If he really wants to leave then he should be sold at the right price which suits us. He's on a three year contract so no need for us to take the first offer that comes, if someone wants him badly enough they will have to pay the rate same for Dyer.

I always liked the look of Distin who was clearly an athlete even then. Keegan and Robson both saw something in him as well, so they did their bit right in identifying a good target. Keegan stole in when we failed to agree terms which looked a bad decision back then and looks even more short-sighted now. I know Robson was keen to sign him and his judgerment should have been backed.

I re-iterate - don't talk sh*te. But you keep doing it anyway. Maybe it's because it's such an uttely pillocky comment ? Internet hard man. If you think that he should be happy cos he's getting paid then you are an idiot who is clearly at war with the world and very bitter, if you think he's had anything but a crap time here then i can only assume you have had an amazing past 5 years as a fan....which makes you an idiot as well. If only you had something constructive to say.... his time here has been s*** ? the opportunity to leave le harve and months later be in the prem,the ability to be able to place your family where you want (aprox 280mile from where you work mind),the ability to do his job poorly and still be lauded for it. he's had a marginally worse time as the rest of them (his dad dying)...enough to explain his 24month strop and poor form.........nada. We're back to square one then? Right, so basically you see absolutely no reason why he shouldnt be perfoming and performing well, (forgetting the fact that at times he has actually performed well and consistently well at times, even early this season at LW) and i see reasons why his time here hasnt been great and therefore offers an insight to his poor form and maybe why his attitude is like it is. (im not saying his attitude is right) Like i say, you name me a single player Zogs age in the premiership who's had as difficult an early career as that and still maintained his form and perfect attitude and ill happily back down, but if you cant you have to see some merit in what im saying....surely? This boy has had it THE worst in my opinion. He's stuck around lot longer then most have (considering he's one of 4-5 players from the SBR days). lots of players go through hard times (the boumsong stuff is superfluous though)the ones who cant hack it get discarded,those that can make it. I see no reason to think n'zogbia isn't a jenas II Well then i guess i sympathize with his plight too much. I guess i think losing your father figure after losing your father is a significant thing, maybe you dont, but im just trying to put myself in his situation and i dont think i could of done too much better, i guess all the people who disagree with me could do better than what Zog has done, which is a credit to them. Well done. Just want to re iterate once more that i think his fathers death is one of a number of things that havent gone for him in his career, people are dragging it out like it the crux of my argument when it isnt. I can see where his frustrations lie, you cant, thats fair enough. Obviously his bastard agent has replaced his father figure. in which case like all opportunisitic bastard agents he needs to be told to fuck off.

We'll finish ahead of Everton next season. We don't need their best plyaers because they are shite. Maybe they'l buy our cast offs at an inflated fee. That's how I see it.

I re-iterate - don't talk sh*te. But you keep doing it anyway. Maybe it's because it's such an uttely pillocky comment ? Internet hard man. If you think that he should be happy cos he's getting paid then you are an idiot who is clearly at war with the world and very bitter, if you think he's had anything but a crap time here then i can only assume you have had an amazing past 5 years as a fan....which makes you an idiot as well. If only you had something constructive to say.... his time here has been s*** ? the opportunity to leave le harve and months later be in the prem,the ability to be able to place your family where you want (aprox 280mile from where you work mind),the ability to do his job poorly and still be lauded for it. he's had a marginally worse time as the rest of them (his dad dying)...enough to explain his 24month strop and poor form.........nada. We're back to square one then? Right, so basically you see absolutely no reason why he shouldnt be perfoming and performing well, (forgetting the fact that at times he has actually performed well and consistently well at times, even early this season at LW) and i see reasons why his time here hasnt been great and therefore offers an insight to his poor form and maybe why his attitude is like it is. (im not saying his attitude is right) Like i say, you name me a single player Zogs age in the premiership who's had as difficult an early career as that and still maintained his form and perfect attitude and ill happily back down, but if you cant you have to see some merit in what im saying....surely? This boy has had it THE worst in my opinion. He's stuck around lot longer then most have (considering he's one of 4-5 players from the SBR days). lots of players go through hard times (the boumsong stuff is superfluous though)the ones who cant hack it get discarded,those that can make it. I see no reason to think n'zogbia isn't a jenas II Zog's role is different to Jenas though. N'Zogbia's forte is providing delivery and goals or if you like, end product. Jenas's was making a side tick.

I thought everybody knew that Distin chose Man City because the club decided not to pay money out in wages they didn't have to satisfy his demands, so brought Bramble instead ? What do you know that the rest of us don't ? Aren't you the one who has been telling us all how we need to pay top fees and wages to compete with the best teams since Ashley took over? Seeing as how Robson correctly identified Distin as a top stopper, seeing as how Distin was far superior to Bramble who we signed after losing Distin to City, what does that say about our ambition or judgement at that time?

I wonder which thick, fat...person got us into that scenario considering Robson spotted and wanted to keep Distin far before he became a star in England?