Mick

This was always going to be a shit loan signing, I just hope that we don't compound the mistake of bringing him on loan by making the deal permanent. The last transfer window was an absolute piss take by everybody at the club who played any part in it.

I don't want to hear about any of the players, it's up to him and the other staff to deal with these things in-house, not in the press. I agree about players privacy, it's not on what he's saying in public and he would be in trouble if he worked in any other sector than football.

More shit from the manager in the press, why doesn't he just shut his mouth and talk to the players instead of the press?

You can't post that, get rid of it.

He did something similar to that against Man City too. I vaguely remember him sliding to keep in an overhit pass, before standing up and whipping in this cross which Shearer burried with his head. Was the day England won the world cup iirc. I think.

I think he might get through next season if he's lucky, I doubt he'll start the season after. I think he'll be found out next season, if he isn't for the remainder of this one.

The player looks like he gives his all during the match where it matters. Should Alan Smith get a game every week if he's our best trainer but shit during games or is this another double standard?

It's daft, isn't it.

How do you measure who is putting in 80% or 100%?

If one players 80% in better than anothers 100% then he should play.

That's not now though, it's further back than Barton being banged up and he was a lot younger than Barton at the time.

How is Ranger a loose canon/moron? When Best was 19 he was playing in the Championship and hardly ever got a game, he'd done less than Ranger has at this stage of his career.

He was injured and went off a couple of minutes before everybody was going down the tunnel, he had every reason to go straight to the dressing room for treatment

My mates not old and he didn't seem pissed, I doubt he'd listen to Macdonald never mind phone him.

He'll still be better than Smith.

Do we do the same with the players and other club staff because they are working under the same conditions?

When? The only quotes I remember which were supposedly from him are: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/01/andy-carroll-newcastle-liverpool "Derek [Llambias, Newcastle's managing director] asked me to hand in a transfer request, so I was pushed into a corner and had no choice," Carroll said. "I wasn't wanted by them and they made it clear they wanted the money. "Then I flew down in [owner Mike Ashley's] helicopter. I didn't want to leave. I'm gutted that I wasn't wanted at my home team after everything I have done and the progress I have made. "I didn't want to leave at all. Make sure they know I didn't want to leave. The players, staff and fans were fantastic."

Pardews quotes regardin the transfer, notice the bits in bold. I seemed to remember that it was Pardew who had asked Carroll to put his request in writing, it appears that he was in agreement with Ashley and Llambias on that one. Before the "New contract in October" is used. Tiote signed a contract in August and a new one in February. I have no problem with that, it's double standards to do it for him yet refuse to do the same for Carroll. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/8295742/Andy-Carroll-was-not-forced-to-leave-Newcastle-says-Alan-Pardew-who-also-questions-players-motives.html “We turned down a big offer, and they came back with a second big offer,” Pardew said. “We were having a discussion about what we were going to do with that offer when Andy requested to see me. “I went to see Andy, and face to face we had a conversation about him wanting a new contract, even though he signed on in October, and (he said) if he didn’t get that contract, he wanted go. “I asked him what he wanted, and I went to the board. We had a discussion about what the ramifications would be for the whole club. “We took the view, with him signing a contract in October, that this would cause us all sorts of problems. “We decided that we needed the conversation confirmed, and he put in a transfer request, which he did. “He spoke to his agent, and between them they put the request in. We decided with the size of the offer, and what it meant to us, that we would accept.”

My mate was at training on Friday and said that Ranger went up for a header and came down on his ankle and was taken from the field injured. Barton walked off the pitch during a practice game, probably carrying a knock, so much for shit rumours.

Nobody said he had final say on selling Carroll, Pardew said that he told Carroll to put a request in writing, he didn't tell him he couldn't leave.

How's it illogical when Pardew admitted that during talks with Carroll he (Pardew) told him to put his request in writing? Llambias and Ashley weren't in talks with Carroll, Pardew was. As for not bringing players in, he did, he brought a player in who was injured at the time and yet to kick a ball for us, he might have been better off bringing in somebody who was fit to play. We're now using his injury as part of the reason that we're struggling. It's like me buying a car that doesn't start and then complaining I can't get to work because my car will not get me there.

I haven't liked Pardew long before he came to Newcastle because he's not a good manager, as far as not giving him a chance goes, me giving him a chance or not has nothing to do with the decisions he makes. The bit about him being a cockney is pathetic when you also mention that I don't like him because he isn't Hughton, where is Hughton from? I couldn’t care if any of our players or managers were mackems as long as they were doing a good job. Pardew has been sacked at every club he’s been at apart from Reading and that’s for a reason, he’s not a good manager. His CV is average and he was sold to us as an upgrade on Hughton when in reality nothing he has done suggests that he is. Our results are no better than under the previous manager and he's weakened our squad at the same time, he's being excused for that because people blame that on Ashley while forgetting that when Pardew was talking to Carroll, he didn't tell him he was staying, he told him to put a transfer request in writing, that's hardly doing everything to keep the player. The knock on effect of that is that we have two of our most influential players refusing to sign new contracts, all a result of selling Carroll. This happened after weeks of bullshit about how we were not selling Carroll and that Pardew had been assured that Carroll was not for sale. The £35million fee is a good fee but not when you take into consideration that that money will go on fees and wages. We now have to gamble that we might be able to bring two players in for around £20 million between them who will come here and fill the gap that Carroll leaving has left. You don't think Routledge would have made any difference to us, others think that he would have made a difference and I'm with them. He did get games before Christmas and he played well in some less well in others. You should know better than anyone that players need time to settle into the Premiership after you had written off one of the best left backs I’ve ever seen at this club. Christ, Barton has taken years to become a decent player for us and he was a proven Premiership player. Why let Routledge go before the end of the transfer window? Why not wait until we’d replaced him? You make it sound as if Saturday was his first cock-up, it wasn’t. Apart from Pardew bull shitting about who wasn’t leaving and how many players were coming in during January. He’s managed this club through a period when we’ve actually become weaker through letting players leave and he’s only brought in two players. One is a player who has psychological issues and isn’t fit to play, the other is a player who wasn’t wanted by 2nd division Swansea. If we’re down to the bare bones then he’s partially responsible for us being in that position, he’s partially responsible for us being weakened by injuries because he didn’t do enough to make us less vulnerable to injuries, he’s full of excuses yet he’s part of the cause. The FA Cup game was an abomination and it’s something that he’s done in the past at other clubs. Like it or not, our first team were always going to go in against Stevenage expecting to win. He played a player who had just come off during a game with an injury and that player ended up missing three league games when he shouldn’t have been on the pitch anyway. It wasn’t Pardew’s fault that Tiote was sent off; it was his fault that he was in a position to get sent off in the first place. Why should a manager get less stick than the players? Taylor has been slaughtered because of the way he played on Saturday. Why should the players be fair game but the manager not? The manager is supposed to train the players or at least ensure that they are given the best training possible. Pardew has said that he trains the defence, if that is the case should he not understand better than most that bringing Taylor in for Williamson earlier in the season was going to be a balls up? Most of us knew it was going to weaken us so why did the person training them not know this? Why did Taylor come in for Simpson if he trains the defence, surely he would know what most of us knew, and that was that the changes were not going to work? I was listening to the radio on the way to the match on Saturday and Pardew was going on about how our home form was poor before he came, that's no excuse for it being poor under him, that's his responsibility. Why highlight our home form before he arrived? Simple, he’s trying to deflect any criticism from him for something which he is now responsible for. Pardew has Souness Mk11 written all over him as were hearing rumours of player unrest, he looks as if he’s even started one of them during the last week when he denied something nobody had even heard about. I’m still trying to work out what he was talking about regarding Barton and I wonder if something did actually happen and he’s trying to put something to bed before it’s even got out. I could go on picking holes in what he’s done but I don’t have time. I’m dreading what this clown is going to do to us over the summer, his first transfer window has been appalling.

We let in more goals through the middle than we do from either side, more than twice as many.