Mick

A lot of people lost it when they equalised and a few people with kids objected to the language. If anybody thinks they can take kids to a football match and avoid hearing it then I think they are certifiable.

I think they were just standing up and getting told to sit down. We almost had a fight in level 4 of the Leazes at the end but it didn't kick off.

The club is more stable than it was when Kinnear came in, I think we'd have a much better chance of getting a better replacement at this time. Who? I haven't got a clue.

Taking Martins off moved the Stoke defence almost into our half, it was stupid.

At the end of the first half he came out, missed the ball and injured one our own players and he was like that all game.

Given was terrible at using his box, he was more like a windmill than a keeper.

Our first half performance is proof that none of those should be in the first 11, having Butt on the bench would have helped in the 2nd half.

Did Kinnear have to make so many changes because of 1 injury? Did Kinnear have to take off the only player who tried to attack in the 2nd half? Martins was poor for most of the game but he tried and he kept them further up the pitch. How many times do we take Martins off only to find the oppositions defence line up on the half way line? Viduka is never going to run from our half and score yet that's what we were expecting from him today when he came on.

The first half was all Newcastle, we played really well and Stoke didn't have a chance. The second half was totally the opposite and we were the ones who weren't in it. I'm still struggling to get my head around what happened in the second half and I'm still trying to work out the formation after the break and it's 2 1/2 hours since I first tried.

I think we'll win by between 2 and 4 goals so I'll take 3-1.

I'm not sure that he is the best, I'm not sure that he isn't either.

I can't wait until the day comes when Butt isn't an automatic choice, I think he's a weakness and that needs sorting.

You can only find out by trying it, I think he'd shine but don't know if he could do it for 90 minutes yet. I think to play that formation means the central midfielder has to play the ball to one side and allow somebody else to take it forwards, you obviously need some flexibility.

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change.

I'd go along with that.

Guthrie can win the ball in the centre, Butt gives it away far too often anyway.

Both are grounds for Constructive Dismissal, where are we taking this thread?

I guess that they could claim Incitement to Religious Hatred but I doubt that could be proven when looking at the chant.

That might come under bullying or harassment.

Agreed as a change of contract gets around that one.

Mine was an explanation of English employment law, yours wasn't for some reason.

Asking somebody to work night shift who has a contract to work days only is grounds for constructive dismissal.

Sorted.

I had a few posts to read before replying, I probably explained it better anyway.