Yorkie

Yes, it's beginning to kick in. Not as bad as it was under Souness, i was very apathetic back then, it just got the state where i didn't care. Worryingly, the recent results are worse than those under Souness. I can feel more angry though now because i know we're capable, whereas under Souness we never were. And i'm angry because of the way we are losing. Plus, we've got a manager who's decisions and comments make me livid.

Probably a combination of momentum, confidence, Shearer hitting the 201, the relief of Souness leaving, etc. Oh and yeah - a better team.

D'you think he's "lost interest" post the transfer deadline day shenannigans? Not in the slightest.

Not finished. Good for the first hour, and on his day, he's still one of the most creative players in our squad. He should be played more sparingly, though. Good thing with Nobby is that you're guaranteed a ball into the box. First thing Milner did when he came on was beat his man, then play a pathetic low ball that hit the first Charlton player in his eyeline. And that's what you're guaranteed with Milner nowadays.

He probably should have scored but the ball came at him very quickly and he still had to turn and volley it goalwards. He was unlucky. While we're at it... what does IIRC mean?

He kicked himself Did he? OK, moving on.

I didn't see Duff's penalty claim until this evening and well, i've seen them given. Wasn't stone wall but i think he had a good case. I mean - he was through on goal and had every chance of scoring - why exactly would he dive. Plus, there is definitely contact there. I think that's a penalty.

I'm not saying he should slag them off. We weren't crap, we weren't shit - i refuse to say that we were, and i blame the manager more so for the draw than the players. We ran out of ideas eventually and he didn't change it; Charlton brought on a defender so we should have coutnered that by bringing on an attacker - which he didn't. I'm not blaming the players for that. I'm drifting off the point though... Roeder shouldn't slag them off, he should tell them the truth. The truth was - that performance was not good enough and it bemuses me how he can be satisfied with that. Telling them that they're shit won't help them... telling them that they are better than what they gave today, will. His post-match comments just narked me altogether. He criticises the team for not scoring a goal, then in his next interview he claims that his strikers were superb. :?

I'm sorry... so? :?

Are they going to get any better if he regards that as 'superb'? They're more likely to get better if he tells them the truth, and tells them that it wasn't good enough.

Eh?

Infact, i think Roeder's spinless, toothless, idiotic, blinkered comments have made me more angry than when the match was on.

He really hasn't got a fucking clue.

What's the betting Luque won't start? Besides - is Ameobi definitely out? Is it just the hip thing, because i thought he would be OK? Doesn't really matter anyway, i'd rather save our half-fit players for the winnable game at the weekend. Palermo are the best team in Italy at the moment (they won 2-0 in the San Siro the other day) and they'll past us anyway.

I'd absolutely love it if we got Houllier as manager, infact - i actually wanted him slightly more than i wanted Hitzfeld. Houllier's a proven, top class manager in this division, and won lots of trophies with Liverpool, and had them in the Champions League every season. And they weren't a particularly brilliant team, especially the season they just pipped us for fourth. He'd done well with Lyon since he left aswell. It would be a superb appointment, but it's not going to happen now. I think it maybe could have done, but not now, no chance. Even if Shepherd appointed him, i wouldn't like him. I didn't like him when Bobby was in charge...

And this is the exact attitude that will take us down. Satisfied with a performance that couldn't beat the worst team in the Premiership at home. Get the fuck out of here.

The truth is, had we have won today, we would have merely papered over cracks. Now that we haven't won, the cracks are still wide open.

Worrying thing is though, these results are actually worse than that under Souness.

How did Butt get the sponsor's MOTM btw?

Oooo so close... Hometown club won, though! Wahey!

How anyone can be satisfied is absolutely beyond me. 0-0 at home to the club at the bottom of the table, probably the worst team in the league at the moment barring ourselves, is a complete and utter embarassment. Dismal result. Disgraceful. And to think i only managed to get my fucking stream working at 62mins. :roll: Jesus Wept.

Score?

In all honesty, it wouldn't have made a diference even if he took the subsitution 30 minutes early. Errrrrmmm yeah... yeah it would. :?

If Glenn Roeder is manager all the way through the season, we will be relegated. Absolutely no gameplan whatsoever. No subs.