Parky

What's clouding the issue here is the transfer fee. People are looking for a £10m player and he has only looked that in fits and starts. In all honesty none of us can truly say how he will turn out, I expect a modest improvement and one or two stand out seasons. He has gone up in value and will never be the ideal partner for Owen, so if someone does offer even £12m I'd take it. *Slightly better than Garth Crooks.

Care to put some names to that....... Alex,Gemmill... I'll wait for them to confirm that they believe Martins 2 can't improve. Maybe they are as daft as you after all. Apparently he's had the catchafarceico def drummed into him so his first instinct always is to kick the ball away....Just looks like a bad first touch..It's more of a twitch.

I have spoken to Stevie about this and he said "BLLLLEAAAAUUUURRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHH" which translates to "those claims are completely unsubstantiated and such conjecture is further proof of the death of modern civilisation".

I hope to god he goes there. blueyes.gif

This thread is off the scale. mackems.gif Have you heard of chickenegghatchio?

We don't know what was said or what happened so we can't make judgements. Maybe he asked Pearson if he could stay at home, but his voice was so squeaky only dogs heard him? mackems.gif ......he realised he could find more space in his hotel room?

MARTINS IS no more than GARTH FEKIN CROOKS with bigger thighs AND A GIRLY VOICE. THREAD CLOSED.

I tell you it is Luther Blisset. Bent is never worth more than £10m if that. Martins is doing ok, but Anelka would be the player to start with Owen.

Wenger's lost it anyway.

Good good. Well done Sam. blueyes.gif

Gone. Wham rumoured to be offerring £8m. So Andrew Ridgely and George Michael are reforming Wham? I wouldn't be sad to see Parker go, he is no better than Butt, and I think he doesn't really want to be here. He will apparently wake up before he go go's. But are these rumours just Careless Whispers? We won't know till he gets back from his break at Club Tropicana.

Gone. Wham rumoured to be offerring £8m. So Andrew Ridgely and George Michael are reforming Wham? I wouldn't be sad to see Parker go, he is no better than Butt, and I think he doesn't really want to be here. He will apparently wake up before he go go's.

Anelka is also a player who is liable to get the hump and ask to leave at any given point, if he gets the hump with us in a couple of seasons do you think there is any chance at all of us getting anything close to what we paid for him? Honestly cannot believe the stick Martins is getting but then he is playing for Newcastle so it shouldn't be a shock! I don't think he gets that much stick tbh. His touch and movement are fucking dreadful and I don't see them improving significantly. That's been my stance all along but people can't bear anyone pointing out faults in one of our players, no matter how glaringly obvious they are. Infact Martins will NEVER be as good as Anelka. Quote me on it. blueyes.gif Anelka sees and acts on space where Martins only sees a blur.

Gone. Wham rumoured to be offerring £8m.

Anelka is also a player who is liable to get the hump and ask to leave at any given point, if he gets the hump with us in a couple of seasons do you think there is any chance at all of us getting anything close to what we paid for him? Honestly cannot believe the stick Martins is getting but then he is playing for Newcastle so it shouldn't be a shock! What like hiding in his hotel room and saying he had a sore knee? I like him just Nicolas is better at everything. Honestly not comparing Martins attitude problems to Anelka are you? They are quite different and their psychology is also miles apart, but the differance is important. Anelka is moody because he knows how good he is and he feels unfullfilled, he is tormented. This is someting a good manager can tap into as Sam has recently at Bolton. Martins is just scatty.....Looks like a bag of sweets will do the trick.

No, you've oversimplified the argument. And believed everything you've read in the papers. And another thing: Boumsong! ....everyone is after Bent apparently at £15m.. mackems.gif The new Luther Blisset.

Anelka is also a player who is liable to get the hump and ask to leave at any given point, if he gets the hump with us in a couple of seasons do you think there is any chance at all of us getting anything close to what we paid for him? Honestly cannot believe the stick Martins is getting but then he is playing for Newcastle so it shouldn't be a shock! What like hiding in his hotel room and saying he had a sore knee? I like him just Nicolas is better at everything.

Agree with you about Martins He is super talent and i hope that he'll remain with us next season. If not i hope we dont sell him for less then 15m because that would be a disgrace About people wanting Anelka as a replacement for Martins: Martins-43=17 goals Anelka-38=12 goals I would rather go for Darren Bent instead of Anelka Bent-34=15 goals The negative parts of Martins' game, i.e. his movement and touch, are pretty shocking imo. Under the right manager the firt one will be transformed to more productive element of his game. Under Roeder he ran like a clueless chicken Under Allardyce his runs will be more reasonable and if he has some decent player playing alongside him who is good in the air he will get even better and his runs will be even more productive. Remember Shearer-Bellamy partnership? What makes you think that he will now learn something (movement) he couldn't learn in Italy, probably the most tactical astute league, under various high profile managers? Can you talk some feking sense into them please Ise. blueyes.gif

mackems.gif Utter rubbish. your oppinon - which you are entitled to, just as i am to mine... Well explain it a bit please. How is Martins better than Anelka? quicker, younger, potential to become better, great strike at times anelka is performing at or even above his potential atm, he has a long record of being a whining little girl, he changes clubs almost every year, he does not score all that many goals.... i'm not saying he is a bad player, just that i think martins is a better option for us, and that oba will become a much greater player than anelka. on top of that, to quote peter schmeichel: "he is the laziest player i have ever trained with, he is the last to arrive at the training ground every day, and always the first to leave" Anelka better than Martins! I've heard it all now. Now that is "utter rubbish". We'll see what Big Sam thinks soon.

Agree with you about Martins He is super talent and i hope that he'll remain with us next season. If not i hope we dont sell him for less then 15m because that would be a disgrace About people wanting Anelka as a replacement for Martins: Martins-43=17 goals Anelka-38=12 goals I would rather go for Darren Bent instead of Anelka Bent-34=15 goals The negative parts of Martins' game, i.e. his movement and touch, are pretty shocking imo. Under the right manager the firt one will be transformed to more productive element of his game. Under Roeder he ran like a clueless chicken Under Allardyce his runs will be more reasonable and if he has some decent player playing alongside him who is good in the air he will get even better and his runs will be even more productive. Remember Shearer-Bellamy partnership? He's not that coachable imo. He's more an headless chicken instinctive player you'll never change that.

See Dave it's working.

Agree with you about Martins He is super talent and i hope that he'll remain with us next season. If not i hope we dont sell him for less then 15m because that would be a disgrace About people wanting Anelka as a replacement for Martins: Martins-43=17 goals Anelka-38=12 goals I would rather go for Darren Bent instead of Anelka Bent-34=15 goals Try counting the PL goals only and not goals against Latvian part-timers or whatever.

mackems.gif Utter rubbish. your oppinon - which you are entitled to, just as i am to mine... Well explain it a bit please. How is Martins better than Anelka?

I stick up for Martins regularly....Anelka is just a vastly more productive player with a world class allround game.

This will be a consolidation season, they've already said that.