Dr Venkman

A set piece and capitalising on a 'break' after the other team had all the chances. Aye right, he's changed

Were you one of them? You're normally a very good poster but I don't understand what you're trying to say there like. How does us shutting up shop while getting beat last week relate to today's result? Ok, I'll try to explain a bit better. The most important part of this is the big picture. In the dark days of Pardew one of the main things that kept the argument raging was that some people analysed every game in isolation, which I thought was a big mistake. It was short term thinking that lead Pardew to set up the team on a game by game basis, and analysing the way the team played in isolation for 90 minutes at a time every week told us little about what was actually going on at the club. Hence, a lot of very confused views about Pardew, and some people taking an age to work out he was awful. It's worth pointing out here that the three people who have picked me up on my post Man U post are people I've largely agreed with in the past, especially on Pardew, which is why I think this is a discussion worth having. With all this in mind, last week we didn't play particularly well and suffered from some extremely stupid play by Janmaat. We were away to a good team in form and the game was gone. McClaren decided to shut up shop and got pelters from plenty of people on here. At the time, I thought that was a totally understandable decision, and one that might go some way to increasing a fragile team spirit if we could see out the game without conceding again. What McClaren did worked. Given that the team are being praised for being disciplined in defence, showing team spirit and togetherness in yesterday's game......it seems fairly straightforward to me that the decision McClaren took last week to dig in and not concede any more in a game we'd already lost...was a reasonable one, and went some way to fostering the team spirit and resolve to fight for each other that won us an impressive point at Old Trafford. Back to the big picture, and the reason I was questioning the criticism of McClaren during and after the Swansea game. I think the criticism was harsh and indicative of a mindset that is a little too anxious to get on the managers back. I think some people need to fully let Pardew go and give the new manager a chance to prove whether he's up to it or not, because I think it's reasonable to suggest it could go either way.

What's the craic Mick?

Were you one of them? I don't think we should have sacked it off second half against Swansea no but, howay man, last weekend had nowt to do with what went on today. Let alone still going on about this. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest that preserving team morale by 'sacking it off' last week went some way to achieving a point today, given the nature of the performance. In fact, it seems like common sense to me. Since McClaren was heavily criticised for it in his second game in charge, I think it's worth discussing, that's all, perhaps not worthy of

Glad to hear he put in a good performance today, and really pleased that he got the chance too.

Were you one of them?

Didn't see the game today. I have to ask though, given that we dug in today and battled to a point under pressure by not conceding, is everyone that was absolutely DISGUSTED by McClaren's decision to shut up shop at 2-0 at Swansea still feeling self righteous about it?

Two world class saves from Hernandez and Mata. Colo blocked three shots as well that were on target. How anyone can say Colo wasn't MOTM is beyond me. He saved it from being a spanking. If this was a potential Man Utd spanking then you have to worried for your title chances this season. I worry for Newcastle FC when a great performance is being stuck in your own box for 80 mins and having zero shots on target. After what we've been watching for the last five years, you're not as stupid as this, surely?

No I think you're grossly underestimating the hole they're in. Hammered in the first two games, a manager only there for a years pay, slagging everyone off right left and centre, no money to bail themselves out. It'll take more than a fluked win.

They're showing all the signs of a club in absolute free fall. Let's hope they're too skint even to bring in Allardyce, he doesn't come cheap.

I appreciate you may not have said this personally, but I'm typing on my phone and I cba to check, but after Mbemba signed it was all over this board that we 'definitely weren't signing anyone else'.

I'll never forgive Pardew for the derby form, ever. Even if he donates all of his wages to Amnesty International.

This attractive football thing is truly one of the mysteries of our time. They're talking about their 'expansive style' on the CP board ffs

Would have liked to see him given a chance but I won't miss him at all.

Bollocks, he was fantastic in the 1-1 at Old Trafford when Hatem won the penalty. Best game I've ever seen him play.

Fans of other teams are going to hate this lad like I hated Drogba. Always at the centre of things and mouthing off, and scoring.

Nah. It's nowhere time to go back there yet, doing it now just seems like we're desperate for him to fail-which admittedly we are. I'd rather just watch it all than get involved. Haha, fair enough, I saw them talking about NUFC fans and couldn't resist.

KI, get back in there and help me out.

As long as the clowns we currently call 'the back five' aren't replaced then money spent elsewhere in the team is pissed down the netty. Nonsense. Things can be better without being precisely what they need to be.

Oh, how depressingly familiar this is.

I for one am just pleased that we're finally spending a bit of money on exciting players and we have a seemingly competent coaching setup. Things are way, way better than they have been for the last few years.

Such Partridge Time to get back on that Palace forum I think.

About £5.7million. WTF are we seriously playing at Couldn't care less to be honest. We've been asking for investment and less penny pinching. We're making an effort to support Carr financially and moving on players that don't work out.

Creased at this, haven't read the story, just the fact that The Chronicle are reporting it: Former Newcastle United player Ryan Taylor sings Oasis for Hull City initiation ceremony http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-newcastle-united-player-ryan-9873393? Craig Johns, if you're reading this, get a fucking grip man