Dr Venkman

WOW!

'would literally die for the club' !!!

Good point. I think we're about to find out if Ashley is the real deal or just not that arsed. This is said in every transfer window, we know exactly what the policy is. Yep was going to say it but couldn't be bothered, as you said that line must be posted every single window. Yes but in other recent windows had we just finished 5th in the league and only narrowly missed out on Champions League qualification, something which would increase the profile of the club and massively increase its revenue? It would appear that the policy doesn't change dependent on league position. what is the policy ? 1. Collect underpants it's just that people go on about this policy of us selling as soon as we can make a profit and apart from a ridiculous offer from liverpool there's little evidence to suggest that we do any different to all bar the sugar daddy clubs. Not me, I was talking about incomings. what's the policy as regards incomings then ? buy players with the idea that when they leave you make a profit and older players who'll possibly noit hold their value you pay less for, like just about everyone else. Well, it seems to be that we buy young and that we won't go much at all over our initial valuation. Also that purchases are based as much on value for money as what positions we need to fill. Do I really need to say all this? Our incoming transfer policy certainly isn't the same as every other club. we've bid for a 27yr old for a position we need and will quite possibly increase our bid. the only thing we seem to do differently to other clubs is be a lot more thorough in our scouting. True. The thing is though I class 27 as young, or at the top end of the young bracket, I said 'as much on value for money as what positions we need to fill'. The Debuchy thing bears that out, it doesn't contradict it. How you can say scouting is the only difference when Liverpool pay 20m for Henderson and Downing and the mackems pay 12-14m for Fletcher I'm not so sure, and that's without mentioning the super rich clubs. Our scouts wouldn't put forward those players given their price tags? I didn't realise Scouts contacted agents and clubs to enquire about price and availability?

There's a channel called Balls?

Good point. I think we're about to find out if Ashley is the real deal or just not that arsed. This is said in every transfer window, we know exactly what the policy is. Yep was going to say it but couldn't be bothered, as you said that line must be posted every single window. Yes but in other recent windows had we just finished 5th in the league and only narrowly missed out on Champions League qualification, something which would increase the profile of the club and massively increase its revenue? It would appear that the policy doesn't change dependent on league position. what is the policy ? 1. Collect underpants it's just that people go on about this policy of us selling as soon as we can make a profit and apart from a ridiculous offer from liverpool there's little evidence to suggest that we do any different to all bar the sugar daddy clubs. Not me, I was talking about incomings. what's the policy as regards incomings then ? buy players with the idea that when they leave you make a profit and older players who'll possibly noit hold their value you pay less for, like just about everyone else. Well, it seems to be that we buy young and that we won't go much at all over our initial valuation. Also that purchases are based as much on value for money as what positions we need to fill. Do I really need to say all this? Our incoming transfer policy certainly isn't the same as every other club. we've bid for a 27yr old for a position we need and will quite possibly increase our bid. the only thing we seem to do differently to other clubs is be a lot more thorough in our scouting. True. The thing is though I class 27 as young, or at the top end of the young bracket, I said 'as much on value for money as what positions we need to fill'. The Debuchy thing bears that out, it doesn't contradict it. How you can say scouting is the only difference when Liverpool pay 20m for Henderson and Downing and the mackems pay 12-14m for Fletcher I'm not so sure, and that's without mentioning the super rich clubs.

Good point. I think we're about to find out if Ashley is the real deal or just not that arsed. This is said in every transfer window, we know exactly what the policy is. Yep was going to say it but couldn't be bothered, as you said that line must be posted every single window. Yes but in other recent windows had we just finished 5th in the league and only narrowly missed out on Champions League qualification, something which would increase the profile of the club and massively increase its revenue? It would appear that the policy doesn't change dependent on league position. what is the policy ? 1. Collect underpants it's just that people go on about this policy of us selling as soon as we can make a profit and apart from a ridiculous offer from liverpool there's little evidence to suggest that we do any different to all bar the sugar daddy clubs. Not me, I was talking about incomings. what's the policy as regards incomings then ? buy players with the idea that when they leave you make a profit and older players who'll possibly noit hold their value you pay less for, like just about everyone else. Well, it seems to be that we buy young and that we won't go much at all over our initial valuation. Also that purchases are based as much on value for money as what positions we need to fill. Do I really need to say all this? Our incoming transfer policy certainly isn't the same as every other club.

Good post. Amongst all the pants wetting re: our squad I'm sticking to my self made promise to appreciate supporting a competitive premier league team, for too long we had to support a bunch of useless gits.

Good point. I think we're about to find out if Ashley is the real deal or just not that arsed. This is said in every transfer window, we know exactly what the policy is. Yep was going to say it but couldn't be bothered, as you said that line must be posted every single window. Yes but in other recent windows had we just finished 5th in the league and only narrowly missed out on Champions League qualification, something which would increase the profile of the club and massively increase its revenue? It would appear that the policy doesn't change dependent on league position. what is the policy ? 1. Collect underpants it's just that people go on about this policy of us selling as soon as we can make a profit and apart from a ridiculous offer from liverpool there's little evidence to suggest that we do any different to all bar the sugar daddy clubs. Not me, I was talking about incomings.

Good point. I think we're about to find out if Ashley is the real deal or just not that arsed. This is said in every transfer window, we know exactly what the policy is. Yep was going to say it but couldn't be bothered, as you said that line must be posted every single window. Yes but in other recent windows had we just finished 5th in the league and only narrowly missed out on Champions League qualification, something which would increase the profile of the club and massively increase its revenue? It would appear that the policy doesn't change dependent on league position. what is the policy ? 1. Collect underpants

Good point. I think we're about to find out if Ashley is the real deal or just not that arsed. This is said in every transfer window, we know exactly what the policy is. Yep was going to say it but couldn't be bothered, as you said that line must be posted every single window. Yes but in other recent windows had we just finished 5th in the league and only narrowly missed out on Champions League qualification, something which would increase the profile of the club and massively increase its revenue? It would appear that the policy doesn't change dependent on league position.

Good point. I think we're about to find out if Ashley is the real deal or just not that arsed. This is said in every transfer window, we know exactly what the policy is.

Haha, true. All about context though isn't it.

If we spend 16m on Carroll and fail to strengthen defensively I'll be a bit miffed like!

I think he's really tidy in possession and gets quite a few goals, he'd be a great acquisition for them. That said I'd still expect them to follow in the footsteps of Villa no matter who they sign as long as its within the O'Neill blueprint. They'll be absolutely fucked when he leaves, more so than Villa are now.

I questioned him this time last season on his constant scaremongering over Tiote, I was told that I 'didn't know the sources that he gets his information from'. It beggars belief that he's employed full time, I've got half a mind to walk down to the chronicle office and apply for his job there and then.

Dempsey's a really good player, would be a big improvement for them. Also Mike what the fuck are you ON ABOUT!?

Yep, expecting a 20m bid from Liverpool soon.

Get him further up the pitch Alan, you did it to good effect last year and he wasn't at full speed.

They need to take a long hard look at what's happening at Villa and get to the toilet themselves.

Yes we do. We do with our second string, or against 'lesser' teams.

Out of interest, how many times has Cisse and Ba up front in a 2 worked?

He's still learning, Torres went past him a bit too easily in the build up to the penalty imo.

All I can say to that is thank f*** you weren't around on here when we were managed by the likes of Souness and Fat Sam. If you call this constant bitching about his tactics trust and support I dread to think how you would hold up with a genuinely tactically clueless manager. It's just frustrating because of the football we played at the end of last season. It seems i'm coming across a lot definitely than what i'm trying to portray...... Fat Sam and Souness was different as i had lower expectations and it almost got to the stage where i just accepted what ever they did. I'm not really bitching, just showing concern about the long term success of what 4-4-2 can bring us. I said i support Pardew and i do but that doesn't mean i have to agree with every little thing he does, i believe in what he's trying to do but there's obviously a difference of opinion of what system is best for us. Or am i not allowed to express an opinion? does this show a lack of faith in the manager? There's more to this club than just systems and i believe in everything Pardew is doing from top to bottom i just feel we are using the wrong system. I don't see no reason to bottle this up inside of me, i personally feel he's using the wrong system for the players we have but this doesn't mean i don't support him. Fair comment. Think the classic and most dangerous 442 normally involves proper wingers and we don't really have any of sufficent quality. In the 442 system they become the link to the attack. When the mf sits deep (as you might when away at Chelsea) there is a disconnect between the MF and the strikers. Cisse and Ba also make similar runs and take up similar zones which compounds the problem (Ba used to drop off a lot more). It's no surprise then that our most dangerous and cogent phases of play happenned when Hatem wandered into the middle and linked up the moves or when Santon became a faux winger. It's no good going on about ManU as they've always had world class wingers in recent history and also one striker rotates into midfield (normally Rooney). So it's not a FLAT 442. Last year it was apparent that Pards liked 442 cause of the extra protection it gave to the fullbacks. It was also apparent that Ba and Cisse fed very efficently off the chances they had in games. They both had red hot spells. They will have good spells again, but we need to create more credible chances for them this year as they are a known quantity now and sides have re-adjusted on how to deal with them. There is a much bigger microscope on us this year and teams we play will be better prepared. However Pardew has done the majority of million things a manager has to think about right. We have come a long way if losing to the CL winners is a dissapointment. Think about that. Great post. I'm concerned but ultimately I expect Pardew to sort it out.

Reminds me a little bit of Cabaye at the start of last season, just not used to the rhythm yet, he'll be fine.