Dr Venkman

if we get either gervinho or n'zogbia i'll be delighted

Yawn.

absolutely. i see Fulham have got Martin Jol, he's canny like.

excellent news, i cant wait to see him play for someone else.

Taking the p*ss I hope? No not at all........... why is Nolan even being offered a new deal ? Him and his best mate are both important players but not irreplaceable, both getting on in footballing years and are lucky to be here. I am sick to fkn death of this "rejects new contract offer" bollocks. Transfer list them then, they don't want to be here then fine, if we signed the players we want Nolan should not even be in the starting 11 anyway. Why are you having a go at Nolan for being offered a new deal? f***s sake Basically bullshit from start to end this. Barton, and especially Nolan, mean a lot for the club and the spirit in the dressing room. As well as being great/decent footballers of course. We know nowt about what the new contracts say, but you can't blame them for not wanting to sign contracts which will give them less money than they have now. And yes, they do want to be here. Which is why they're being offered new deals...but you get the feeling that they're after similar wages to the likes of Ben Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye, etc. which they shouldn't be on imo. it hardly sets a great precedent though does it mate? talking of loyalty, two of the top performers in a successful season get offered pay cuts? I see what you mean, but when they're 30 & 31, should they be expecting high wages on a par with the likes of Ben Arfa & Tiote when they're not even guaranteed a game? if ben arfa and tiote are still here by then they'll be getting paid a lot more than 50k a week. Tiote will still have 4 and a half years left by then. i'm assuming he meant by the end of the proposed new deals for barton and nolan?

Willie Mckay!

Taking the p*ss I hope? No not at all........... why is Nolan even being offered a new deal ? Him and his best mate are both important players but not irreplaceable, both getting on in footballing years and are lucky to be here. I am sick to fkn death of this "rejects new contract offer" bollocks. Transfer list them then, they don't want to be here then fine, if we signed the players we want Nolan should not even be in the starting 11 anyway. Why are you having a go at Nolan for being offered a new deal? f***s sake Basically bullshit from start to end this. Barton, and especially Nolan, mean a lot for the club and the spirit in the dressing room. As well as being great/decent footballers of course. We know nowt about what the new contracts say, but you can't blame them for not wanting to sign contracts which will give them less money than they have now. And yes, they do want to be here. Which is why they're being offered new deals...but you get the feeling that they're after similar wages to the likes of Ben Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye, etc. which they shouldn't be on imo. it hardly sets a great precedent though does it mate? talking of loyalty, two of the top performers in a successful season get offered pay cuts? I see what you mean, but when they're 30 & 31, should they be expecting high wages on a par with the likes of Ben Arfa & Tiote when they're not even guaranteed a game? if ben arfa and tiote are still here by then they'll be getting paid a lot more than 50k a week.

Taking the p*ss I hope? No not at all........... why is Nolan even being offered a new deal ? Him and his best mate are both important players but not irreplaceable, both getting on in footballing years and are lucky to be here. I am sick to fkn death of this "rejects new contract offer" bollocks. Transfer list them then, they don't want to be here then fine, if we signed the players we want Nolan should not even be in the starting 11 anyway. Why are you having a go at Nolan for being offered a new deal? f***s sake Basically bullshit from start to end this. Barton, and especially Nolan, mean a lot for the club and the spirit in the dressing room. As well as being great/decent footballers of course. We know nowt about what the new contracts say, but you can't blame them for not wanting to sign contracts which will give them less money than they have now. And yes, they do want to be here. Which is why they're being offered new deals...but you get the feeling that they're after similar wages to the likes of Ben Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye, etc. which they shouldn't be on imo. it hardly sets a great precedent though does it mate? talking of loyalty, two of the top performers in a successful season get offered pay cuts?

What a pointless thing to whinge about. you don't wish we had a proven top level manager? i'm just a bit depressed that fucking villa are being linked with great managers and we haven't got one, that's all

Same with Barton. I wouldn't be surprised if they're after similar in these contract discussions, we're not having it, so contract offers are being turned down/withdrawn. Er, except Barton offered to take a pay cut? A paycut will still put him on a par with the top earners here. At 30 and a probable squad player, he should be on £25k a week imo, do you reckon he'll be after that? No chance. Same applies with Nolan. £25k? Really? You honestly believe they wouldn't be able to get more than that elsewhere? Actually, don't answer that. It's pointless trying to argue with you people. And at what point does loyalty come in? They were paid a shitload for a season in the Championship we finished 1st On wages that wouldn't look out of place at Everton or Villa who were finishing around the top 6. that's hardly a fair comparison really.

Same with Barton. I wouldn't be surprised if they're after similar in these contract discussions, we're not having it, so contract offers are being turned down/withdrawn. Er, except Barton offered to take a pay cut? A paycut will still put him on a par with the top earners here. At 30 and a probable squad player, he should be on £25k a week imo, do you reckon he'll be after that? No chance. Same applies with Nolan. £25k? Really? You honestly believe they wouldn't be able to get more than that elsewhere? Actually, don't answer that. It's pointless trying to argue with you people. And at what point does loyalty come in? They were paid a shitload for a season in the Championship we finished 1st

villa linked with ancelotti, rijkaard and benitez while we're managed by alan pardew

please please take smith

while they're both nincompoops, i'd be more likely to believe shepherd. the fact that Llambias chose to preface the amount of pay with 'under kevin keegans management' should tell you all you need to know

while i don't believe the rumour, surely what you've just said is the premise of pretty much all performance related/bonus contracts?

think i'll get the new black kit. never got anything black to wear when playing football plus it means i can have a top with ben arfa on it and i'm not over keen on the new home kit after seeing it worn

not that i've noticed Barry Glendenning, but he's from Ireland, not really the biggest Sunderland fan. he seems to be the one that slags them the most

not that i've noticed

i've been listening for about half a season. a few times i've heard them say stuff like 'and there was a newcastle game but we're not gonna talk about that' 'this week even newcastle are getting a mention' (when we were playing man u) 'there you are newcastle fans, happy now?' to be honest it's done in a jovial way and i'd rather they were saying nowt than slagging us off every week, it's probably because we had a reasonably successful season that they don't mention us to be honest. they did slag the mackems off something rotten like

have you ever listened to their football weekly podcast? they actually make a pretty consistent joke out of intentionally never giving us a mention

can we get a smilie of someone nipping a bud?

more promising signs. sign him and a striker and we'll be in much better shape

still, he's done ok

looks like they're resigned to losing him and he COULD be coming to us, nothing new if so edit - didnt see post above, was just reacting to french line up the page

Can't see Gameiro getting more than £50k a week at PSG ... but he might get a better offer if he talks about how many other options he has?