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Croatia win and I'm tempted to go for a draw in the other game, Poland were good in qualifying and the Germany game is really huge for them. They'll be champing at the bit.

Kluivert has a career before he came to Newcastle you know..? Babel has had as good a first season as could be expected from a youngster moving to a new league and adjusting his game and Kuyt is a regular in one of the top 4 and one off the most loved players at his clubs wherever he goes. I predict you will bring up his goalscoring record in the Premiership, but he has so many more strings to his bow. Kuyt is rubbish. Nothing but a workhorse. Van Persie and van Nistelrooy are the only strikers I can think of who've come over from the Dutch league and done the business. You may want to look up Van Basten, Kluivert, Mackaay and a few others on wikipedia, or are you talking about the Premiership, in which case I'd include Robben who transformed Chelsea in his first two campaigns, and Bergkamp of course, unless you think he was s***..? All in all, I can't believe we are even debating the quality of Dutch strikers when I look at what England can muster in that position.. I said players who came from the dutch league over here, to the Premiership. Which was what Keefaz brought up in the first place. Robben isn't a striker by the way.

Kluivert has a career before he came to Newcastle you know..? Babel has had as good a first season as could be expected from a youngster moving to a new league and adjusting his game and Kuyt is a regular in one of the top 4 and one off the most loved players at his clubs wherever he goes. I predict you will bring up his goalscoring record in the Premiership, but he has so many more strings to his bow. Kuyt is rubbish. Nothing but a workhorse. Van Persie and van Nistelrooy are the only strikers I can think of who've come over from the Dutch league and done the business.

I thought Emre was pretty shit. He just doesn't do enough for me at all, looks like he has no hunger or drive whatsoever. Neat and tidy on the ball and... that's his entire contribution. I think he had one forward run and one shot.

Colin Kazim Richards > Turan FACT

More evidence that Liverpool have got virtually f*** all to spend compared to their usual cash

There's been no contact, not even a preliminary enquiry asking about his availability etc. The article was written by the chief Everton correspondent at the Echo and billed as an exclusive on the back page, there will be something in it.

tbh I still think Nugent can be a decent Prem-level striker. He'll never be a big goalscorer but could be a good partner for someone. He's quite an intelligent player and that doesn't leave you overnight. Would have been interesting to see how it panned out for him if he chose Sunderland where he would have got regular games and the confidence that comes with it. Might have fucked his career up choosing Pompey.

He's an utter twat of a man, however good a manager he is. How ANYONE that isn't a Man Utd fan could watch that self-aggrandising, smug, publicity stunt of an interview is beyond me. I'd feel physically sick.

I was spot on Never rated Alan Smith, the useless shitehawk.

I'd love us to sign Huddlestone. Moyes would play him in a 4-5-1, not a totally unsuitable 4-4-2 and get the best out of him.

Liverpool Echo says Huddlestone could come to Everton for £6m Surprised you aren't all over this one Jol?

It was officially unveiled today. Looks a lot better on person but they never showed the back of the kit in any of the promo photos http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_files/images/jun_08/efc__1212589318_300408_everton_21.jpg http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_files/images/jun_08/efc__1212589161_300408_everton_34.jpg Here's the goalie kit: http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_files/images/jun_08/efc__1212589669_300408_everton_04.jpg Pea green and grey

The diamonds are still there, just moved to an awkward place on the sleeve instead of the shoulders. They really are shite.

What is it with Turks being fucking nobheads on football forums? They're like gypos travelling from message board to message board, invading when a club is linked with one of their players or drawn against one of their clubs in Europe. Weird.

Our new kits are horrific. You can't even see the worst thing about them on those pictures- it's got some utterly shit abstract design in the fabric on the back ala 90's footy kits. All the new Umbro kits have got this. I hate Umbro. They're just so shit at everything.

Arsenal and Liverpool. Wouldn't rule us out completely. We had a bid rejected in January when no fucker outside Cardiff had ever heard of the kid. The bidding might be a bit too rich for us now but you never know. Lies, I had heard of him and seen him play on a number of ocations and I live in Newport Hes class anyway, and as a Welshman I hope he lives up to this early hype and goes on become a great. Your "No fucker out of Cardiff"is bull s***, we scouted him as a kid and he chose to join Cardiff. Alright, settle down ffs. I was talking about general football fans. Obviously scouts knew about him. Anyway, hopefully he chooses us to get regular football instead of rotting on the bench at United or Arsenal. Come on, you know he would get chances at Arsenal as he would rarely at United. Do you really think he is promised so much first team football at Everton? He'd get chances in the team at Arsenal but nowhere near as many starts so he could stagnate. It could be argued this has happened to Walcott, it definitely happened to Diarra.

Arsenal and Liverpool. Wouldn't rule us out completely. We had a bid rejected in January when no fucker outside Cardiff had ever heard of the kid. The bidding might be a bit too rich for us now but you never know. Lies, I had heard of him and seen him play on a number of ocations and I live in Newport Hes class anyway, and as a Welshman I hope he lives up to this early hype and goes on become a great. Your "No fucker out of Cardiff"is bull s***, we scouted him as a kid and he chose to join Cardiff. Alright, settle down ffs. I was talking about general football fans. Obviously scouts knew about him. Anyway, hopefully he chooses us to get regular football instead of rotting on the bench at United or Arsenal.

Did he? I think Royle had a large part in it tbh. Bought him from us with what was a high price for an underachieving youngster at the time and gave him regular football.

Arsenal and Liverpool. Wouldn't rule us out completely. We had a bid rejected in January when no fucker outside Cardiff had ever heard of the kid. The bidding might be a bit too rich for us now but you never know.

Saving the great white hope Joe Hart's skin? Thought Jagielka did ok, not going to get picked ahead of the obvious ones if fit when it comes to qualifiers the but probably a safe squad member who'll not start crying because he doesn't get a start........ Jags is very, very solid. Not much gets past him and he's the king of the last ditch block tackle. Technically though, he's not much of a footballer and that will probably count against him in international football, the players who can bring it out from the back and pass it a bit will get picked ahead of him- Ferdinand, King, Lescott, Woodgate.

Saving the great white hope Joe Hart's skin?

No idea. I hope we sign him but I doubt we will, not much noise being made about it. We'll probably try and loan him again and get told to piss off. Both times here's been here he's gotten fit and started coming into his own at the end of the loan period, I'd love to see how well he does if he signed and got a proper pre-season training under his belt. He'd be quality. Are all your fans going completely mental because he's not signed yet? Nah. Half the fans don't like him because he signed for Valencia in the first place. Mind you, there's been no talk about it lately. One tribalfootball story linking him to West Ham would probably make the other half go ape shit.

Who took your corners and free kicks against us at Goodison? I've got to admit that I thought every one was a danger to our defence. Pretty sure it was Fernandes on most of them. He really whips them in well, loads of pace. He'd probably be perfectly suited for that system. He's a centre mid but Moyes has played him on the right wing too. So don't poach him.

No idea. I hope we sign him but I doubt we will, not much noise being made about it. We'll probably try and loan him again and get told to piss off. Both times here's been here he's gotten fit and started coming into his own at the end of the loan period, I'd love to see how well he does if he signed and got a proper pre-season training under his belt. He'd be quality.