Dr. TC

yeah, works in IE for me too I see. IE is rubbish though.

Just tried to use my University VPN service, and can't access it through that either. Shouldn't this work as everything is going through JANET?

I use UKOnline, which is a derivative of Sky. I can't see it either. Grr.

Bah, that's what comes of opening 10 threads and reading them one at a time. 6 minutes behind GeJon.

Anyone who's a regular in a premier league side and has played that many times for the U21s will want to play for his country. He isn't saying: "I should have been picked already," he's just saying that it's a goal of his. I'd be worried if it weren't.

I got where?

Jenas' red was rescinded wasn't it?

Keep your legs together Goofy. Just foul them when they try to go past I've perfected this now. Refs often have sympathy too, as it's always the cocky tits who do it.

I'm a tall centre half. People do it to me all the time. F**kers

I'm not that good tbh.

And yet we give the armband to Smith when Geremi goes off

The defence was good. Rozenhal looked shaky though.

I was there mate. Faye got beaten to balls left right and centre due to a lack of pace. If you notice though, I did give him the highest rating of any of our midfield. Beye did struggle with Walcott IMO, but I agree he wasn't completely overrun. When Walcott switched sides Enrique seemed to deal with him much better despite seeming slower.

We played: ----------------------- Given ------------------------ --- Beye --- Taylor --- Rozehnal --- Enrique --- ----------------- Smith --- Faye -------------------- Milner -------------- N'Zogbia ------------ Ameobi ----------------------- Martins ----------------------- I was there, so don't tell me otherwise. Appaling formation, it really was. Almost. I was there too. It was: ----------------------- Given ------------------------ --- Beye --- Taylor --- Rozehnal --- Enrique --- ----------------- Smith --- Faye -------------------- Milner -------------- N'Zogbia ------------ Ameobi ----------------------- Martins -----------------------

He did look completely gutted at the time like.

Smith must be the worst choice of Captain i have ever seen. It makes me imagine giving Bowyer the captaincy for some reason - unthinkable.

I wouldn't have said we have nothing bad to say about Martins. Yes, he provided a threat despite no service, but he headed a relatively free header too close to their keeper early on and was so terrified of missing his best chance that he put no power on it at all. Could and should have scored at least one. He was OK, pluses and minuses.

This pretty much summarises my long post at the start. sorry mate couldn't be bothered to read it i'm knackered I didn't mean anything by it mate, just pleased that you had pretty much exactly the same opinion as me.

Going to bed now. Annoyed with life.

This pretty much summarises my long post at the start.

Really? I was very impressed, saw him do very little wrong. Maybe it was just in comparison to everything else. Midfield contributed virtually nothing, leaving the defence under constant pressure. Gameplan seemed to be Rozenhal whacking it to Shola on the left wing for flickons, or for Senderos to mess up.

Yeah, that's why I said: Just got back at the start

Ameobi played left wing, N'zog was in the centre until Emre came on. It was awful. Smith thought he was still passing to players in Red.

Spent so long writing this post in main thread it had been hijacked and locked before I could post. Thought it was worth a thread to discuss Enrique's positive contribution, if not to dwell on the overall crapness of everything else. Here it is: Just got back. Shower of shite. Sorry mods if I use strong language. Player ratings Given 7 - Some good saves, but failed to command his area to any extent Beye 6 - Looked pacy but struggled with Walcott Taylor 7 - Should start every game. Quick and strong. Rozenhal 5 - Played himself into trouble often. Cleared it up well mostly, but shouldn't have let it happen in the first place. Seemed at fault for first goal from what I saw. Was poor going forwards and left himself out of position. Enrique 8 - MOTM The one bright point in the whole game. Looked strong and reasonably quick, dealt with threats down his flank, often helped Rozenhal out of his messes. Also looked a threat going forwards first half with some good balls into the box, especially given his left wing partner Shola Ame-retard-obi. Faye 6 - Solid but slow N'Zogbia 6 - Little contribution in the centre, but had obviously been singled out as a danger man and was fouled a lot. Smith 3 - Played the ball to an Arsenal player as often as not, comitted fouls and argued the toss about it. No attacking contribution. Ameobi 3 - Left wing wtf? I thought we realised years ago that playing high balls to him on the flank doesn't work. Won a few headers, but lost the ball a lot and made no defensive contribution at all. Was booed off by travelling fans (not by me, but I can understand) Milner 4 - Seemed off the pace, little contribution. Martins 6 - No service, just random long balls. Made himself some chances, but squandered them. Absolutely awful awful miss at 1-0, obviously worried about missing again. Should have had a penalty though, and was singled out like N'Zogbia. Subs: Emre 6 - Added some direction to our passing. Butt 6 - Added some steel when were at 0-0 We were played off the park in all honesty.

Harper (Y) BBC would have put Seamus in there.