Crumpy Gunt

Disgusting he's allowed his name to be attached to that statement. Very Pardewesque.

You say that but Sunderlands was always half full - what did that achieve? it put them where NUFC need to be to get shot of Ashley.

They said on Twitter they had spoken to some people from the original group earlier today. Supporters for Change - as it was back in the day. The principles of staying away from games will have little or no bearing as it did then. The fact McKeags etc all pretty much worked and lived locally made them very reachable by the support. Interested to see what you think might work, if anything? Get relegated and stay relegated. Perhaps go as far down as the mackems. As long as the cash cow is surviving every season then there's not one single chance he'll sell up and move on. In the next 3/5 years we'll drop again - just hope we don't come back up.

They said on Twitter they had spoken to some people from the original group earlier today. Supporters for Change - as it was back in the day. The principles of staying away from games will have little or no bearing as it did then. The fact McKeags etc all pretty much worked and lived locally made them very reachable by the support.

Or a handy excuse not to play a game they have no obligation to play as it’s a NL cup and they are now EPL. Or a bit of both. We’ve lost players that we would have otherwise kept, including first choice keeper. Promotion definitely a challenge beyond the obvious There will be teams in the NL playing to not get promoted next season.

it's what NUFC need to get shot of Ashley..... So, don't knock it til we've tried it!

maybe a blessing.

Apparently Marske have had to pull out of the Cleator Cup on the back of not having enough players signed up to make a team. Maybe this is the reality of forced promotion?

Richarleson goal stats on talksport just now. Young lad admittedly but 23 career goals only 5 last season. £50m to buy potential.

Agree with most of this apart from the rafa bit. You're dead wrong there. See, Ashley has done a grand job of dumbing down expectations, stamping out hope and ambition and ensuring the fan base "knows our place" (ie a bottom half/yoyo club.) Eleven years of this shite has ground people down- the younguns know nothing different. You are probably right that it's all in vein and rafa will likely leave in high dudgeon at some point in the next 12 months. But over the last three years he's given some self respect back to the club, he's reminded us we don't have to - and shouldn't- accept mediocrity and hopefully he's stirred something in the younger generation of fans as to the potential of this football club Say rafa had gone in the summer of 2016 and the usual yes man appointed none of that would have happened. We might have come back up we might not, but we would have continued to operate the same (club and fanbase) regardless. If nothing else Rafa having been here the last three years should make life a lot more uncomfortable for ashley when he leaves than if he hadn't been here. I hope the above makes sense and I don't come across as too much of a bellend. Me saying fuck Rafa Benitez isn’t me downplaying his importance to the club because without him at this very moment in time, well, it doesn’t bare thinking about and I agree with everything you say looking at things objectively purely from a football perspective. I love the man, but getting back to my point, on that final day of the season having been relegated the players and Ashley got away with murder really and while I understand and get why fans made it all about Rafa, he is not and never will be Mr NUFC. But that day the club and football become a sideshow to the Rafa show. All hell should have broken loose, Rafa didn’t stay because fans sang his name btw, it might of solidified his decision to stay, but he was staying regardless providing the owner give him control and backed him which he did, he’s a cunt and a thick cunt when it comes to football, but even he cant look a gift horse in the mouth. That was only to help us go back up and protect MA’s investment though, that was his ulterior motive. Once we went up, Rafa hasn’t had full control, been backed and is now being undermined and his ideas and plans sabatoged. We go down for the second time under Ashley and the atmosphere was nothing short of a carnival, sorry Rafa is a great manager, but as desperate as we were, to ignore the shambles that was our club and give the owner a free pass all for Rafa cannot be justified nor could even be reasoned given he had only been in charge for 8 games or so, had no affiliation to the club and although some things improved, it was no different to what happened under Shearer really. I honestly found it bizarre and embarrassing, but in no way surprising. That day I thought Rafa or no Rafa, it’s still going to turn out bad, only this time under a cloud of delusion because Rafa will still be our manager and things will get better, I swear, Ashley will change. Bull shit. I won’t lie, I wanted to believe too and thought well let’s see... The mackems rightly laughed at us that day. We mock then for being happy to beat us even if it meant they didn’t win another game, we are the same. Who cares about relegation, we have Rafa yay. No standards, no self respect and no spine. Again, I say fuck Rafa that day, Ashley? Enough is enough! This is for you... But Rafa Rafael Rafael Benitez... Mike Ashley that day must have felt like OJ Simpson when the jurors returned a verdict of not guilty. Now he is invincible. First KK, then Shearer, then renaming the stadium, then Hughton and now Rafa. Oh and 2 relegations of course, but hey didn’t we have fun in the Championship. When Rafa goes will fans go too? Will they fuck. Again I hope Pardew returns, they deserve each other! As long as fans keep giving Ashley and his lackies a get out of jail free card, they will continue to commit crimes against NUFC. It’s not him that needs locked up though, it’s the mugs that give him their hard earned and subsidise his criminal activities... Ashley will stay until we are were SAFC are. Until the golden goose is shorn of its £££ he's going nowhere. A few relegations and promotions means fuck all. EDIT - McKeags, Hall/Shepherd, Ashley have all used NUFC as their own personal cash-cow.

Who thinks this utter shite up?

No worries, we have merino....

He's far exceeded most peoples expectations. It was almost enjoyable watching an England team shorn of all the utter shithouses that have completely underperformed for decades. The Golden Generation?!

Southgate showed his limitations. Can start well...Columbia and Croatia. But couldn't counter their tactical changes mainly in 2nd half. Got all the results you would expect. 4-4-2 tonight when the Croats began to dominate the middle. Stifle their game. Kane looked limited.

Cheers.

Sorry, I know its been asked but anyone got the box office email address? ST Query.

If Sterling had shot Tupac he'd be 47 today.

Can England create enough opportunities? Panama aside (utter shit) they create not much in open play. Sterling looks like he's sent his painter and decorator brother in his place. He has to be dropped.

Dier and Henderson in the very same team. Which thick twat said that wouldn't happen?

But always you. I take no joy when people realise that yet again my analysis was correct.

Another day, another sitter.

I'd rather go to them than Old Trafford, The old WHL or West Hams soulless shithole. (in the cup I mean)

Is anyone an active member on SMB? Need a favour if you could PM me. Thanks in advance!

Def Rose and Rashford. Young and Sterling were poor.

They'll be back v Belgium and beyond.