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Just tell him that Pedro will be looking after him. That should do it.

I’ve felt all along that there would be more than one horse in the race but this looks like a plant from that Bishop cunt.

Fenton was a Mackam. Bit of a myth he was a Geordie. Wrong. Categorically wrong. His family are all from Whitley Bay. He played at Cramlington Juniors for his whole junior footballing life until he signed for Villa. I know him and his family. His father, Ray, sadly died of a brain haemorrage about ten years ago.

Though, if we are going to sign one, we'll locate the only fucker recovering from getting mashed up in a car accident. If he chooses not to sign, we'll target a couple of crash test dummies next. Straight swap for Colback.

Where's that? William Hill - not sure if you can do it inplay though. Great value that. Even if it doesn't quite come in, they're great odds.

Where's that?

Aye probably shrivelled Paedo Pete's cock.

I think they’ll make a play for Eddie Howe. Just a hunch. Can’t imagine he’d go but if they throw enough money at him...

Ah fuck.

Wigan beating Bournemouth by two. Apparently.

Give it to Giggs and he’ll only turn up for two games per year.

That kid has put a lot of thought and logic to his follow up post, however, he's pretty much based on his response on 'she wouldn't respond because the NDA means she couldn't comment'. Whilst strictly true that's not massively accurate in the real world. There's many ways to get word out without implicating yourself or having any potential liability for breaching the NDA and if Caulkin says her people have told him it's unrelated then I'd probably edge towards GC's views.

Well he was out of a job for 11 of those months. Areet Ian W. Calm down.

He’s won 6 games in 2 years!?! Fucking hell. What a tragic cunt he is.

Love that it was Big AC that done him over.

All about the ownership issue for me. We get taken over before the last few days of the window and I think the good mood and hope will carry everyone through. We don't then we're down. Almost certainly.

There's 100% logic and agenda behind that '20th Jan' comment btw and it's related to the sale. I'd say he's been asked to plant that on behalf of PCP to increase pressure on MA towards the end of the window to sell. They all know that a leopard doesn't change it's spots and Ashley will not overpay on the many players needed. They also know he's got a history of breaking promises. Therefore, the unrest by the third week of Jan, will be palpable. He struggles with volume.

Love this bloke. Find it very hard to criticise him given the shit show of a squad and owner. We'll be forever in his debt imo for the last 18 months.

The debt is a huge issue that we don't really know anything about and I haven't seen the media mention anything about it, what Ashley wants done with it is very possibly a big sticking point. Is it really as simple as just adding it into the value of the club so that nothing will be owed post-takeover? Not just the debt but different people value businesses differently. They are loads of different valuation mechanics that can be used so it only really matters what model PCP use to value NUFC. Somebody else might come along and value us at £350m but, until that time, it's pretty much irrelevant. I think personally, that PCP are valuing low because they recognise they might have a championship club on their hands at that price come the summer. The price will probably drop again after two weeks, then the negotiations might start again in the summer if we stay up. Assuming PCP don't move on to another club. If that is the case, I'd caution PCP against relying on that method being successful. Ashley is an inherent gambler with a huge ego. His most memorable time whilst owning NUFC I would hazard a guess would be the Carroll and Sissoko deals. He gambled, he won. His worst times the endless shite signings that cost him money and relegations. He probably regrets those much more than the abuse. If you back him into a 'take it or leave it' corner, he'll walk away every time. He thinks he knows best and, in fairness to him, he's a self-made billionaire which indicates that he probably has been right more than wrong in other areas of his professional life. He can also afford to gamble. Not many can. If you were owned by a group of shareholders or family members there would inherently be some who are more risk averse than others, that's nature's way. He is not answerable to anybody else. There is nobody to rein him in, nobody who is allowed a voice or an opinion. It's no coincidence that he surrounds himself by people who tell him what he likes to hear. He likes to think he knows best and their job is to ratify that. If it goes wrong, we'll all get pissed together and they'll tell him how funny it all is and that he was right all along. That, for me, is the attraction to a new owner. No matter who comes in, they won't be a rich man-child like him. They will use almost certainly use a rational basis for decisions and take on board the views of others qualified in their respective fields. This bloke has been winging it the whole time. All I know is that he's been selling this club for at least five years, and he's not managed to agree a price with any number of interested parties. That suggests to me, it's his valuation which is always too high. That said, I think there's still a chance this is just a case of brinkmanship, and there could be a compromise price reached, probably far below what the fat wonder was hoping to achieve, but nevertheless a realistic one. That's because nobody has realised that you need to make him think he's got the best end of the deal. For all we know they've all gone down the 'take it or leave it' route and that's why we're stuck with him. One thing is for sure, he's clearly not an easy bloke to deal with because he's still here.

The debt is a huge issue that we don't really know anything about and I haven't seen the media mention anything about it, what Ashley wants done with it is very possibly a big sticking point. Is it really as simple as just adding it into the value of the club so that nothing will be owed post-takeover? Not just the debt but different people value businesses differently. They are loads of different valuation mechanics that can be used so it only really matters what model PCP use to value NUFC. Somebody else might come along and value us at £350m but, until that time, it's pretty much irrelevant. I think personally, that PCP are valuing low because they recognise they might have a championship club on their hands at that price come the summer. The price will probably drop again after two weeks, then the negotiations might start again in the summer if we stay up. Assuming PCP don't move on to another club. If that is the case, I'd caution PCP against relying on that method being successful. Ashley is an inherent gambler with a huge ego. His most memorable time whilst owning NUFC I would hazard a guess would be the Carroll and Sissoko deals. He gambled, he won. His worst times the endless shite signings that cost him money and relegations. He probably regrets those much more than the abuse. If you back him into a 'take it or leave it' corner, he'll walk away every time. He thinks he knows best and, in fairness to him, he's a self-made billionaire which indicates that he probably has been right more than wrong in other areas of his professional life. He can also afford to gamble. Not many can. If you were owned by a group of shareholders or family members there would inherently be some who are more risk averse than others, that's nature's way. He is not answerable to anybody else. There is nobody to rein him in, nobody who is allowed a voice or an opinion. It's no coincidence that he surrounds himself by people who tell him what he likes to hear. He likes to think he knows best and their job is to ratify that. If it goes wrong, we'll all get pissed together and they'll tell him how funny it all is and that he was right all along. That, for me, is the attraction to a new owner. No matter who comes in, they won't be a rich man-child like him. They will use almost certainly use a rational basis for decisions and take on board the views of others qualified in their respective fields. This bloke has been winging it the whole time.

Aye, I'm sure he'd sell if he was offered a daft sum, but he seems happy enough to hang on if he doesn't and continue to use the club as a branding tool for SD. That's a far cry from someone who wants out as we are led to believe. In the current market, £250m for a PL Newcastle United with Rafa Benitez is quite cheap. If that is the offer on the table, I’m unsurprisinged that he hasn’t accepted it. PCP need to up their offer, not the other way around. 250ml in the current market etc...show your workings out ? The playing staff alone would be worth £140mish (based on the values set by TransferMarkt), throw in the stadium, training facilities and all other land and goods owned by NUFC and you can easily see how the figure can rise. What is the value of Rafa to NUFC? The academy? The potential of the club...? Etc. How many interested parties do you think are out there interested in handing Ashley closer to what he wants? None. But would you sell your house because someone has offered £100,000 less than the asking price and you haven’t got any other offers? For businesses of this size and profile there are ALWAYS buyers. Venture Capitalists would take it tomorrow for the right price. Not Ashley's price. Where he's struggled, is that he wants to attract a premium and the 'We Buy Any Car's of the corporate finance world are exactly that, bargain hunters. PCP do offer a genuine alternative but they've probably only offered 10-15% more than a We Buy Any Car alternative so I can see why he's reluctant to deal at this level. My gut feeling is that he'll gamble on survival and take it off the market unless there is another serious alternative in the background with a better overall package to him (and there might just be...).

Aye, I'm sure he'd sell if he was offered a daft sum, but he seems happy enough to hang on if he doesn't and continue to use the club as a branding tool for SD. That's a far cry from someone who wants out as we are led to believe. In the current market, £250m for a PL Newcastle United with Rafa Benitez is quite cheap. If that is the offer on the table, I’m unsurprisinged that he hasn’t accepted it. PCP need to up their offer, not the other way around. 250ml in the current market etc...show your workings out ? The playing staff alone would be worth £140mish (based on the values set by TransferMarkt), throw in the stadium, training facilities and all other land and goods owned by NUFC and you can easily see how the figure can rise. What is the value of Rafa to NUFC? The academy? The potential of the club...? Etc. How many interested parties do you think are out there interested in handing Ashley closer to what he wants? My feeling is that there is someone else in the background. Also worth noting that often businesses don't get sold to the 'highest' bidder but to the person offering the 'Best Package'. This would inevitably see risk on both sides. The £250m is probably a much lower risk offer to Ashley but clearly he wants more which will mean that he would have to shoulder some of the risk as the price increases. Therefore less up front but perhaps £25m upon survival, £20m should we qualify for Europe within x years etc etc.

The debt is a huge issue that we don't really know anything about and I haven't seen the media mention anything about it, what Ashley wants done with it is very possibly a big sticking point. Is it really as simple as just adding it into the value of the club so that nothing will be owed post-takeover? Not just the debt but different people value businesses differently. They are loads of different valuation mechanics that can be used so it only really matters what model PCP use to value NUFC. Somebody else might come along and value us at £350m but, until that time, it's pretty much irrelevant.

As close as you'll get to an official statement that. Ashley's mouthpiece almost in the way Anal was for Shepherd.

So should they just come straight in at £400 million then? If he really wants to sell the deal will get done. It all comes down to Ashley intentions really. Cos that's what I said. Any deal is not only about the intentions of the seller. The buyer has to make the seller think they've achieved fair value. What I know for sure is that the old adage of 'time kills all deals' is 100% correct in my personal experience.