Minhosa

Wrong thread then. Maybe

FWIW i've gone for Spurs. See him as a character Harry could manage etc.

Wrong thread then.

Good point - have added the Championship Club option. Cool. Now I've voted

Good point - have added the Championship Club option.

As it says on the tin..........Where do you think Joey will end up?

Not mongs who've done the sum total of f*** all when you're a premiership club. His appointment was no coincidence. Where did I say it was a coincidence? I didn't agree with the choice of manager, or the manner that he got the job at the time... But I don't get the blind hatred you're showing towards him, personally. And you didn't answer my earlier question... Are you going to hate every manager that this club has under this regime, because they are all going to be working under the same remit? Just asking, because it seems like a lot of hard work when you could just choose to get behind the manager instead. I hate Pardew and will continue to until he resigns when he's eventually broken by this regime. I'll also hate his replacement if I deem it appropriate. He's not worthy of the position he has and I've said that from day one. I'm afraid I could never understand that mindset like. In my opinion, if he's getting results on the pitch (which he has done OK with so far) he should be supported....else what's the point? Seems like a lot of effort to hate every manager if you don't agree with his job description / the way he got the job. Maybe so. That's my stance, don't care whether you agree with it or not to be honest. No problem. You're entitled to your opinion. I just don't get it personally. Good to have the debate regardless, same with Ian W.

Not mongs who've done the sum total of f*** all when you're a premiership club. His appointment was no coincidence. Where did I say it was a coincidence? I didn't agree with the choice of manager, or the manner that he got the job at the time... But I don't get the blind hatred you're showing towards him, personally. And you didn't answer my earlier question... Are you going to hate every manager that this club has under this regime, because they are all going to be working under the same remit? Just asking, because it seems like a lot of hard work when you could just choose to get behind the manager instead. I hate Pardew and will continue to until he resigns when he's eventually broken by this regime. I'll also hate his replacement if I deem it appropriate. He's not worthy of the position he has and I've said that from day one. I'm afraid I could never understand that mindset like. In my opinion, if he's getting results on the pitch (which he has done OK with so far) he should be supported....else what's the point? Seems like a lot of effort to hate every manager if you don't agree with his job description / the way he got the job. Maybe so. That's my stance, don't care whether you agree with it or not to be honest.

Not mongs who've done the sum total of f*** all when you're a premiership club. His appointment was no coincidence. Where did I say it was a coincidence? I didn't agree with the choice of manager, or the manner that he got the job at the time... But I don't get the blind hatred you're showing towards him, personally. And you didn't answer my earlier question... Are you going to hate every manager that this club has under this regime, because they are all going to be working under the same remit? Just asking, because it seems like a lot of hard work when you could just choose to get behind the manager instead. I hate Pardew and will continue to until he resigns when he's eventually broken by this regime. I'll also hate his replacement if I deem it appropriate. He's not worthy of the position he has and I've said that from day one. True, there has been no discernible improvement in the football at all from Hughton's team. Has he had any impact at all on the team? Does he influence transfer policy? I suspect he has little involvement (just my opinion.) All he has done is preside over a steady stream of sales as our most established players head out through the exit. He's not a manager, just a caretaker for the Ashley regime. Caretaker would actually be a very good title for the cunt actually.

Jose will be a massive loss. Cracking fullback.

Not mongs who've done the sum total of f*** all when you're a premiership club. His appointment was no coincidence. Where did I say it was a coincidence? I didn't agree with the choice of manager, or the manner that he got the job at the time... But I don't get the blind hatred you're showing towards him, personally. And you didn't answer my earlier question... Are you going to hate every manager that this club has under this regime, because they are all going to be working under the same remit? Just asking, because it seems like a lot of hard work when you could just choose to get behind the manager instead. I hate Pardew and will continue to until he resigns when he's eventually broken by this regime. I'll also hate his replacement if I deem it appropriate. He's not worthy of the position he has and I've said that from day one.

Well, it would be if he wasn't complicit in them Ian, but let's overlook that. I'm confused. How do you know he's complicit in them? Err.......Because he's still here. If he wasn't complicit in them why the f*** would he stay? He's lost 48% of last seasons goals, a solid captain and the promise of the AC money being re-invested. If he wasn't complicit do you think he would stay? Not to mention the bullshit he's pedalling about bore holes and the missing £35m. I personally believe his job description to be first team coach (i.e. the footballing side) and as Golfmag suggested, he probably has a remit to reduce the wage bill (and buy cheaper players with big sell on values). On paper, that is something I don't have a problem with. I don't believe, however, that Pardew in an ideal world would have wanted Barton, Jose, Carroll and Nolan to go. I just think he has little say over which players are the ones to go. If you want to blame that on him, then that's your right, but personally I find that over the top. What you need to ask yourself, though is, every manager from now on will be working under the same job description... that much is clear. So by that reckoning, will you hate every manager we have in charge under this regime from now on? If so, you may as well give up now. From a footballing point of view, I don't see what he has done so wrong. I pretty much agree with that top bit apart from I think he has no say at all more or less on players and thats left to Carr/Dekka. The majority of bad feeling on here mind comes from the way he was linked with the job way before Hughton was binned and was a pretty leftfield appointment at the best of times & that s*** sticks and rightfully so IMO. Yeah I understand that, and if you look back through my posts to that time, I was annoyed too... but I'm just trying to judge him on the job he's done, which has been OK in my eyes. I just find it hard to blame episodes like todays on him. And I do believe he genuinely wanted to keep all said players...but it's not in his control Totally agree dude. I'll rightfully or wrongfully give him until the end of the season but he surely knew what he was getting into. I'm still largely of the opinion he is a chancer, hence why he's here. Knew he'd get fuck all to work with but its a way of getting his name back into the game when he was pretty much done after his So'ton shenanigans so he had nowt to lose plus he obviously picks up a canny packet for it but is willing to lose his credibility as a result. He sold his soul but football has a way of forgiving these arseholes for their pasts.

Not mongs who've done the sum total of fuck all when you're a premiership club. His appointment was no coincidence.

Well, it would be if he wasn't complicit in them Ian, but let's overlook that. I'm confused. How do you know he's complicit in them? Err.......Because he's still here. If he wasn't complicit in them why the f*** would he stay? He's lost 48% of last seasons goals, a solid captain and the promise of the AC money being re-invested. If he wasn't complicit do you think he would stay? Not to mention the bullshit he's pedalling about bore holes and the missing £35m. I personally believe his job description to be first team coach (i.e. the footballing side) and as Golfmag suggested, he probably has a remit to reduce the wage bill (and buy cheaper players with big sell on values). On paper, that is something I don't have a problem with. I don't believe, however, that Pardew in an ideal world would have wanted Barton, Jose, Carroll and Nolan to go. I just think he has little say over which players are the ones to go. If you want to blame that on him, then that's your right, but personally I find that over the top. What you need to ask yourself, though is, every manager from now on will be working under the same job description... that much is clear. So by that reckoning, will you hate every manager we have in charge under this regime from now on? If so, you may as well give up now. From a footballing point of view, I don't see what he has done so wrong. I think he has no say at all more or less on players and thats left to Carr/Dekka. The majority of bad feeling on here mind comes from the way he was linked with the job way before Hughton was binned and was a pretty leftfield appointment at the best of times & that shit sticks and rightfully so IMO.

And look how well that went. He's getting found out by more people, more and more each day. Look, I know you don't like him. You've made it clear on here for weeks. I'm just telling you what Barton himself said. Whether he was successful or not in his attempts to get Barton the deal is really irrelevant (knowing the men upstairs that he has to deal with). The point I was making is that the players don't seem to dislike him.... and none of the ones who have left or are leaving have said a bad word about him. Yet. Yes yet. I can't predict the future can I (neither can you by the way ). However, it's been 7 months since Carroll left and 6 weeks since Nolan. Still nothing..... All I'm saying is if Pardew was a bad and as "part of the cockney mafia" as some people on here and Twitter would have you believe, don't you think we would have heard about it by now. Some people may have believed he had more influence at the time of the AC sale. I should think that people now realise he's got jack all to do with the club, apart from taking names out of a hat every weekend. I think everyone realises that his job is basically first team coach. So on that basis, how do you think he's done (purely as a football coach / managing the first team)? In my eyes, he's done alright. About the same as Hughton. Pardew has easily done as well as Hughton. Of course, just look at the legacy he'll leave. A f***ed up team spirit, a squad thats threadbare and a first team that might as well be called 'injury 11'. I thought we had established that Pardew had no control over transfers? So with a worse team (ie no Carroll) and taking over from a popular manager with the players (too popular perhaps...?), he got results that were certainly as good as Hughton's and played far better football?

Good posts Midds - coming up with some belters lately.

I think he was incentivised to make money for the club by way of sales and reduction in wage bill Ian.

And look how well that went. He's getting found out by more people, more and more each day. Look, I know you don't like him. You've made it clear on here for weeks. I'm just telling you what Barton himself said. Whether he was successful or not in his attempts to get Barton the deal is really irrelevant (knowing the men upstairs that he has to deal with). The point I was making is that the players don't seem to dislike him.... and none of the ones who have left or are leaving have said a bad word about him. Yet. Yes yet. I can't predict the future can I (neither can you by the way ). However, it's been 7 months since Carroll left and 6 weeks since Nolan. Still nothing..... All I'm saying is if Pardew was a bad and as "part of the cockney mafia" as some people on here and Twitter would have you believe, don't you think we would have heard about it by now. Some people may have believed he had more influence at the time of the AC sale. I should think that people now realise he's got jack all to do with the club, apart from taking names out of a hat every weekend. I think everyone realises that his job is basically first team coach. So on that basis, how do you think he's done (purely as a football coach / managing the first team)? In my eyes, he's done alright. About the same as Hughton. Pardew has easily done as well as Hughton. Of course, just look at the legacy he'll leave. A fucked up team spirit, a squad thats threadbare and a first team that might as well be called 'injury 11'.

Well, it would be if he wasn't complicit in them Ian, but let's overlook that. Not resigning over something isn't the same as agreeing with it. Fair enough, he is agreeing to work with Ashley and Llambias and he should attract whatever criticism you attach to that. But any manager we have will have to work with this regime, the alternative is constant resignations and chaos. That's why I don't see the point in constantly blaming Pardew. If he had any self-respect he wouldn't be here, regardless of the impact on the club - for better or worse for us lot.

Well, it would be if he wasn't complicit in them Ian, but let's overlook that. I'm confused. How do you know he's complicit in them? Err.......Because he's still here. If he wasn't complicit in them why the fuck would he stay? He's lost 48% of last seasons goals, a solid captain and the promise of the AC money being re-invested. If he wasn't complicit do you think he would stay? Not to mention the bullshit he's pedalling about bore holes and the missing £35m.

Well, it would be if he wasn't complicit in them Ian, but let's overlook that.

And look how well that went. He's getting found out by more people, more and more each day. Look, I know you don't like him. You've made it clear on here for weeks. I'm just telling you what Barton himself said. Whether he was successful or not in his attempts to get Barton the deal is really irrelevant (knowing the men upstairs that he has to deal with). The point I was making is that the players don't seem to dislike him.... and none of the ones who have left or are leaving have said a bad word about him. Yet. Yes yet. I can't predict the future can I (neither can you by the way ). However, it's been 7 months since Carroll left and 6 weeks since Nolan. Still nothing..... All I'm saying is if Pardew was a bad and as "part of the cockney mafia" as some people on here and Twitter would have you believe, don't you think we would have heard about it by now. Some people may have believed he had more influence at the time of the AC sale. I should think that people now realise he's got jack all to do with the club, apart from taking names out of a hat every weekend. I think everyone realises that his job is basically first team coach. So on that basis, how do you think he's done (purely as a football coach / managing the first team)? In my eyes, he's done alright. About the same as Hughton. I'd say if he's a first team coach he should be talking less, promising less and telling lies less. Then I'd judge him on football alone. Until then, I'll consider his title 'Director of Bullshit'.

And look how well that went. He's getting found out by more people, more and more each day. Look, I know you don't like him. You've made it clear on here for weeks. I'm just telling you what Barton himself said. Whether he was successful or not in his attempts to get Barton the deal is really irrelevant (knowing the men upstairs that he has to deal with). The point I was making is that the players don't seem to dislike him.... and none of the ones who have left or are leaving have said a bad word about him. Yet. Yes yet. I can't predict the future can I (neither can you by the way ). However, it's been 7 months since Carroll left and 6 weeks since Nolan. Still nothing..... All I'm saying is if Pardew was a bad and as "part of the cockney mafia" as some people on here and Twitter would have you believe, don't you think we would have heard about it by now. Some people may have believed he had more influence at the time of the AC sale. I should think that people now realise he's got jack all to do with the club, apart from taking names out of a hat every weekend.

And look how well that went. He's getting found out by more people, more and more each day. Look, I know you don't like him. You've made it clear on here for weeks. I'm just telling you what Barton himself said. Whether he was successful or not in his attempts to get Barton the deal is really irrelevant (knowing the men upstairs that he has to deal with). The point I was making is that the players don't seem to dislike him.... and none of the ones who have left or are leaving have said a bad word about him. Yet. Edit - And you're bang on. I hate the cunt. I wouldn't be taken in by him- no point in listening to the bloke when he's got fuck all influence.