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That is class. :thup:

Disagree. Think he's been a complete cock lately.

LB-Paul Konchesky (worth a punt) RB-Luke Young (Worst game by a RB ive ever seen against Liverpool, but still worth a punt i suppose, trade with carr) CM-Youssi Benayoun (inconstant, dont need him and his position) CF-James Beattie (No more than £3m, worth a punt) Cf-Ashley Young (Rejecting bids of £5m, plus he is a right winger, we dont need him) Konchesky is worth a look at. Curbs sold him from Charlton and may now find himself pushed out as the two never got on. WHU didn't pay a massive fee, maybe a swap for Babayaro to keep costs down would be worth a look. Same for Young. Charlton fans are not happy with him, he's lost interest and we could for the right price he could move. However, nothing more than £3m for numerous reasons, maybe throw Carr in as well Beattie is about the best striker we can get for the £3m mark without taking a punt abroad. I reckon he'd redouble his efforts if he came here, and relaunch his career, but its a risk, but one worth taking imo. If the club came out with these three before the window closes, i'd be quite happy. Although i think there are better options about for the fullback positions, we neither have the money, nor the talent to broker the deals needed to secure the players, so maybe with WHU & Charlton in unsecure positions, we could take some advantage over them. Quoted for this man talking sense. My thoughts exactly. :thup: aye likewise, only problem is he is a form player - either good or bad, he tends not to have a steady average. Decent pen taker too which could be a bonus Aye - agree that him being a 'confidence' player is the one thing that will put a doubt in a lot of peoples minds. Also, its a nice bonus that he can strike a good pen/free kick. I don't buy in to the argument that he's shite just because he hasn't done the business at Everton. Just look at Crouch, Kevin Davies, Camara etc for prove that you can do well as some clubs and not at others. He's not useless. He would do a job and he would be low risk signing, in that we could always sell him on if it didn't work without taking a massive hit of the transfer fee. It seems to me that a lot of people of disregarding the idea of signing him without looking at it from a risk viewpoint.

LB-Paul Konchesky (worth a punt) RB-Luke Young (Worst game by a RB ive ever seen against Liverpool, but still worth a punt i suppose, trade with carr) CM-Youssi Benayoun (inconstant, dont need him and his position) CF-James Beattie (No more than £3m, worth a punt) Cf-Ashley Young (Rejecting bids of £5m, plus he is a right winger, we dont need him) Konchesky is worth a look at. Curbs sold him from Charlton and may now find himself pushed out as the two never got on. WHU didn't pay a massive fee, maybe a swap for Babayaro to keep costs down would be worth a look. Same for Young. Charlton fans are not happy with him, he's lost interest and we could for the right price he could move. However, nothing more than £3m for numerous reasons, maybe throw Carr in as well Beattie is about the best striker we can get for the £3m mark without taking a punt abroad. I reckon he'd redouble his efforts if he came here, and relaunch his career, but its a risk, but one worth taking imo. If the club came out with these three before the window closes, i'd be quite happy. Although i think there are better options about for the fullback positions, we neither have the money, nor the talent to broker the deals needed to secure the players, so maybe with WHU & Charlton in unsecure positions, we could take some advantage over them. Quoted for this man talking sense. My thoughts exactly. :thup:

Never heard of him. What do you know?

Yeah - I seem to remember we took two (iirc) of his old pals that seem to culminate in the unexplained disappearance of Tommy Craig.

I'd take your point on Kluivert if he'd done well after leaving Newcastle but he didn't. Kevin Davies, Peter Crouch, have all had big money moves and flopped. There are some people on here would be delighted with those guys. Beattie's made a bad move once. I bet he'd love the chance to restore his reputation up here. Just think, we, FOR ONCE, could actually buy a player, restore his reputation and see his value GO UP!! Fuck me, that would be lovely. When was the last time we sold a player for a profit? Jenas bluewink.gif Did we though? If we did it was marginal and it certainly wasn't because he set the world alight up here or we developed him into a much better player, it would be because he was young, english and takes it up the arse. About £4m with the add on's. Thats nearly double what we paid! I'd be surprised if we made that much on him and don't reckon we made much on Woodgate (although at the time I suppose we were thankful just to get back what we'd paid). My point is we RARELY make profits on players. We would have a chance of doing so with Beattie and, again, if it didn't work we'd still be able to flog him to a lower league side for a couple of mill. Ironic that the two players we made a small profit on we're English too though. Hamman Aye, true, I'd forgot about him to be honest.

Hasn't Akinbiyi played most of those games at lower level though?

I'd take your point on Kluivert if he'd done well after leaving Newcastle but he didn't. Kevin Davies, Peter Crouch, have all had big money moves and flopped. There are some people on here would be delighted with those guys. Beattie's made a bad move once. I bet he'd love the chance to restore his reputation up here. Just think, we, FOR ONCE, could actually buy a player, restore his reputation and see his value GO UP!! Fuck me, that would be lovely. When was the last time we sold a player for a profit? Jenas bluewink.gif Did we though? If we did it was marginal and it certainly wasn't because he set the world alight up here or we developed him into a much better player, it would be because he was young, english and takes it up the arse. About £4m with the add on's. Thats nearly double what we paid! I'd be surprised if we made that much on him and don't reckon we made much on Woodgate (although at the time I suppose we were thankful just to get back what we'd paid). My point is we RARELY make profits on players. We would have a chance of doing so with Beattie and, again, if it didn't work we'd still be able to flog him to a lower league side for a couple of mill. Ironic that the two players we made a small profit on we're English too though.

I'd take your point on Kluivert if he'd done well after leaving Newcastle but he didn't. Kevin Davies, Peter Crouch, have all had big money moves and flopped. There are some people on here would be delighted with those guys. Beattie's made a bad move once. I bet he'd love the chance to restore his reputation up here. Just think, we, FOR ONCE, could actually buy a player, restore his reputation and see his value GO UP!! Fuck me, that would be lovely. When was the last time we sold a player for a profit? Jenas bluewink.gif Did we though? If we did it was marginal and it certainly wasn't because he set the world alight up here or we developed him into a much better player, it would be because he was young, english and takes it up the arse.

I agree, I'd probably pay a max of £4m for him.

A well thought out, constructive argument, God - some people on here could learn a thing or two from you. Ok, if not Beattie, any suggestions? Bearing in mind that LB/CB will be priority in this window and we won't have wedges of wonga?

I'd take your point on Kluivert if he'd done well after leaving Newcastle but he didn't. Kevin Davies, Peter Crouch, have all had big money moves and flopped. There are some people on here would be delighted with those guys. Beattie's made a bad move once. I bet he'd love the chance to restore his reputation up here. Just think, we, FOR ONCE, could actually buy a player, restore his reputation and see his value GO UP!! Fuck me, that would be lovely. When was the last time we sold a player for a profit?

Cheers Gejon. I hadn't seen that. Basically a one goal every 3 games or so Centre Forward then? Doesn't put me off. He's never had the type of service we could give him and those stats (for a third choice forward which is what he'd be next season) are good IMHO. A damn good investment.

I didn't mean he was always crap, but he was by the time he got to us for the reasons you mentioned. Him and Bellamy would have been a good partnership if it was for the fact that Robson was pressured to start Shearer all of the time. Kluivert was unlucky that Shearer was still just about good enough when he arrived. I don't think he was particularly motivated by the fact he knew he would end up on the bench no matter how well he performed in training. Anyway, to all of those slating Beattie, you need to remember just where our club is these days. We are not a top four side and we are not going to break the bank on a world class forward. IF the board haven't learnt anything from some of the buys made over the last few seasons they should be shot. He's low risk with a point to prove, yet we know he CAN handle the premiership. Can Nugent? Can Eastwood? Fuck knows.

I agree. He'd be a cracking buy for the right price. People seem to have quickly forgot his Southampton form. Aye, because he's never reproduced it. For the reasons quoted above. With Milner, Dyer, Nobby, Emre, Duff etc creating chances for him. He'd score goals with a doubt. He doesn't get that at Everton.

I agree. He'd be a cracking buy for the right price. People seem to have quickly forgot his Southampton form. Everton have never played in a style or system to suit him. I think they've treat him a bit like we did Kluivert. He didn't arrive in the best of nick physically and didn't hit the ground running. Moyes lost faith. Simple as really. Time for a new start for the lad and, I for one, would rather an in-form James Beattie was in our starting eleven rather than giving our centre backs a good battering. Him and Martins would be breathtaking.

In terms of an investment Viduka would be a freekin disaster mate. Wrong side of 30, will want to finish his career in Aus, not the most motivated at the best of times, will want a final BIG payday and has a shit injury record. Compare that against Beattie: - Young (ish) - English - Motivated (to prove the ginger gimp in scouseland wrong) - Will not demand HUGE wages in comparison to Viduka - We'll be able to flog him on to a Championship side for a couple of million if he doesn't make the grade or settle - Decent injury record. No doubt in my mind, if I was the man in charge of the chequebook, I'd go for Beatts every day of the week. He's a low risk investment, especially after we've had our fingers burnt by Boumsong and Luque lately. Check my previous posts, I've said Beattie is who we should go for for months.

I agree and he wouldn't have let in either of Fentons strikes at Ewood,which was the straw that broke the camels back IMO. Flowers was mint that game as well. Both qouted for truth. Oh, and YES from me. No doubt IMHO.

It was nice for him to be part of the World Cup winning side this year I thought. A player who has stuck with (largely) one club throughout his career and given his all for the national side, with that much talent, and opportunity deserves a bit of luck. bit gutted for Maldini though after his bad luck with the national team, losing in both World Cup 94 and Euro 2000 Finals. If only he stuck around with the national team for a year or so more, he would've won just about everything going domestic and internationally Agreed mate

I've been saying we should sign Beattie for ages. Blackburn are rumoured to be interested and have been talking about £2m. £2m quid is nothing to risk on an English striker, proven in the top league, hungry to prove a point who rarely gets injured. I challenge anyone to find a better VALUE acquisition than Beattie based on age, ability, and investment RISK. edit - sorry, forgot to say, I wouldn't sign another forward if we got a target man. We've got enough cover to play a target man up front on his own or with Milner/Dyer or Emre IF Martins got injured.

Eh? :confused: Have I missed something here lads? Since when did this site turn into a bad flashback of English Homework? Write a fucking story? Please. :roll:

So, thus far, a squad of the best players we reckon we've seen at St. James' would look something like this;- Keepers: Schmeichal Flowers Defenders: Adams Midfielders: Vieira Nedved Scholes Gravesen Keane Dalglish Forwards: Del Piero Mulder Owen Le-Tiss Drogba Yorke Kluivert Some talent there. We might concede a few mind.

Aye, granted, he did and he was a canny player but you're not telling me he was THE BEST opposing player you've ever seen at St. James' are you?

I love Riise's attitude and attacking instincts. But his defending gives me the shakes a lot of the time bluebiggrin.gif He's one of these players you can't help but like (which is why I find it incredulous a so called Liverpool fan calls him a tosser), but defensively he isn't all that. He gets away with it a lot in the Prem, but sometimes he gets in trouble cos of it. Basically, he's a player with a spot-on attitude, he's a workhorse, doen't get many injuries, he's good for a few goals a season, but he isn't the best defensively. That is how I'd sum him up! Cheers Mate. I'd often wondered what the 'Pool fans view of him was. He always chips in with goals but I wasn't sure if that hid other elements of his game that weren't as strong. Anyway, question answered, cheers.