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Really looked like he'd just had enough

Unfortunately cant see us getting anyone better in...............hes here for the duration. Impressive how shit its got so very quickly. Players dont look like they give a flying fuck either.

That would indicate some degree of planning dont think they have been clever enough for that. Think hes all they could get. If he is anything to do with Carr be like when we bid on players he recommends and we're on the 6th to 8th choice.

Anthony Hudson recommened by Rednapp to the mighty Newport County young English manager seems well regarded by press even though hes been a knacker wherever he has been gives Charnley and FCB the delusion that they are being progressive.............I hope its him and its the disaster it promises to be.

Totally agree If our kids had made it......................I'd still be pissed if our club had fallen so far that our 1st team took part in it. Its the chekatrade or whatever its called.

Maybe not but if bobby had what keegan had no one would have touched us wed have pissed that league for 2 or 3 seasons. Keegans time was unbelievable fun and ultimately typical nufc disappointment but tactically he wasn't on the same planet as Bobby Bobby would'nt have touched us with a bargepole when you consider where Keegan picked us up from quite astounding what he achieved and how far he lifted us dont think anybody else could have done it. I was referring more to the opinion that if bobby was manager for 94/95 or 95/96 or 96/97 with that squad hed have won the league no doubt on at least 2 occasions He was streets ahead as a tactician than Keegan was, When the going got tough with Keegan he crumbled as we seen after the Leeds Game. He was all good when everything was going great and running along smoothly but with other clubs not only us and England of course when things got tough he chucked it Harsh on Keegan he had plenty of tough times in first season and stuck the course turned us around (even with the mini walkout) the last two games of that season where probably the most crucial of our modern history god knows what would have happened had we gone down that year. He was'nt the first International manager to find himself out of his depth at that level I wish Graham Taylor had done the same. Whether Bobby would have done any better is a Moot point mebbes in the two latter years. Just wish that he had succeeded Keegan.

Maybe not but if bobby had what keegan had no one would have touched us wed have pissed that league for 2 or 3 seasons. Keegans time was unbelievable fun and ultimately typical nufc disappointment but tactically he wasn't on the same planet as Bobby Bobby would'nt have touched us with a bargepole when you consider where Keegan picked us up from quite astounding what he achieved and how far he lifted us dont think anybody else could have done it.

Comparisons with Ferguson ...............Ferguson was a nobody outside Aberdeen and came good must be my favourite quote Scottish Premier Division (3): 1979–80, 1983–84, 1984–85 Scottish Cup (4): 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86 Scottish League Cup (1): 1985–86 Drybrough Cup (1): 1980 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1982–83 UEFA Super Cup (1): 1983 When Scottish Football was still competitive...............only thing that SAF and Ross have in common is that they both managed St Mirren

Not much will change, and what little has he has been forced into no epiphany or road to Damascus moment. Zero hour contracts replaced by guaranteed 4 hour contracts for retail staff the warehouse will remain pretty much the same though they may employ a nurse to cut down on recordable ambulance calls.

Rafa remaining here and doing so would be Ashleys best option. A manager the fans respect someone experienced enough to rebuild the club from top to bottom. The money in premier league now would surely dwarfe what it would cost to have a properly run Premier League club. Rafas personal and family circumstances will remain the same whether we are relegated or otherwise and would certainly give him the project he said he wanted and Ashley would be able to fade away into the background if indeed that is what he wants. Not expecting any logical decisions from the powers that be though.

My fear is if Rafa is not retained by hook or by crook, after relegation is certain a statement will be released stating how sorry everyone is but we gave it a right good go this time spending £80m and getting Benitez in then silence. Like last time we will be allowed to drift, Charnley selling whoever he can until Beardsley or any coach who is left is given charge of pre season training then the team for beginning of championship fixtures. Hope that Im wrong and Ashley has realised that the current structure and culture at the club will never work if not cant see Moyes or even Pullis touching the job with a proverbial barge pole.

Sunderlands games Arsenal (h) Stoke(a) Chelsea (h) Everton (h) Watford (a) Norwich Arsenal (a) Man Utd (h) Watford (h) Everton (a) NUFC Man City (h) Liverpool (a) Palace (h) Villa (a) Spurs (h) Feeling hope stirring again Sunderland 4 pts Norwich 4pts ourselves 7 pts though prob still see us relegated on GD cant afford usual spankings in next two games.......praying City have eye on champions league semi final LIverpool do and ourselves Rafa a favour. On paper Sunderland must be favourites to stay up but my relegation meter swinging wildly.

Wish I didn't just feel terrified! Enjoy the moment if Rafa cant get this lot at busting a gut no one can..................feel the hope

Amongst problems we have had is that we had a collection of players with an eye on their next move rather than a team. Cant see Rafa tolerating not putting a shift in or meekly surrendering and accepting a hammering. Keep us up, there is hope now that he can where before there was none, and hes got a long time project on his hands turning things around after the last 8 years think most would agree.

Valerie Duckworth what a woman she hopes it works out well for an immature man but not an immature underage girl

The clubs reply banning them all from SJP is undoubtably in the post

With regards to the telegraph piece how can the other two members of this so called board Carr and Lickspittle Moncour agree to sack him when Carr has f***ed up so badly with recruitment if they do sack him then that f***er should resign as should Charnley Moncour can go back to meetingandfuckinggreeting. Why a furious Ashley would leave the decision to the three stooges who helped get us where we are is beyond me frankly. My only hope is that when we go down Ashley decides hes got enough on his plate right now with Sports Direct and looks to sell up at a reasonable price. Straws and clutching I know.

Sounding out a replacement ..............................Joe Joe wake up

Was it mentioned whether Drummett had an injury or was it tactical (I know I Know)

I would assume that's not the case. He's not going to admit it if they don't have any evidence Exactly. How the f*** do you come to the conclusion that he would have gotten away with it? Must have a decent case and some solid evidence. It's got to crown court and he's pleaded guilty FFS. You would think that they have some pretty solid evidence for the grooming charge and if this evidence points towards them meeting he admits to one sexual activity charge which I assume is the kissing and touching stuff he will be hopeful that a good defence will give him wriggle room for other charges. Did it not come to light after her Dad heard that she had been boasting about sleeping with him that he persued it? Could be "he said she said evidence for remaining charges that the defence are hopeful wont fully convince a jury. Mentioned after legal arguments that he pled to first two charges think it may have taken Sunderland by surprise regardless of how much they know that he pled guiltyt to them.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/08/sports-direct-issues-profit-warning-poor-christmas-sales Not had a good month ..................A tax aviodence scandle to blow up in his face now would be perfect ratchette up some pressure

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/12077567/New-Sports-Direct-property-boss-is-ex-nightclub-promoter.html Apparantly

Dont think we have even had a corner...............at home ffs Err we've had at least 2 I can think of. Have we must have nodded off for them then

Dont think we have even had a corner...............at home ffs

Its a perfect shit storm. I may be wrong but I dont think any club would have a board comprised of an administrator promoted way above his pay grade, a chief scout and general lickspittle, whose task it is to kiss the arses of the corporate fans on a saturday at any normal club and the manager/1st team coach whatever it is you want to call him. Add to this a recruitment policy of finding players who for one reason or another we can get relatively cheaply with a resale value hence avoiding any Michael Owenish scenerios. Doesnt seem to matter if the manager/1st team coach identified the position as one which needs improving or how far down the chief scouts recommendations they are so long as they are cheap and have potential resale value. Get them to the club by giving them a bit more money than can be offered in their domestic leagues and a promise to sell them on when a decent club comes in for them. A captain who wanted to desert his sinking ship during a relegation fight who is subsequently rewarded with a new contract and remaining as skipper. A "star player" who wants a move to a Champions League club irrespective of the fact that he is not good enough to warm their bench and who is only here still as he want to represent his country next summer amd wouldnt be able to do that competing for a seat on the bench. Add to this the Cisse and TIote scenerios which have been done to death. I dont believe for one minute what the administrator says about 80 1st class applicants for the job but regardless we have appointed a pal of the head coach whos recent CV has failed written all over it and who turned us down three times and who now seems clueless on how to arrest the slide. Dont even want to mention the owner himself who has presided over this utter complete shambles. Doomed whatever we do and this shit storm has been brewing for a good few seasons now.