Ronaldo

I agree.

Abysmal. Out of his depth at this level.

Terrible.

Krul 8 Perch 6 Williamson 6 Coloccini 7.5 (Campbell 7.5) Enrique 7 Routledge 5 Tiote 8.5 Barton 5 Jonas 8 Nolan 3 Shola 4

A '6' for Nolan?

We were keeping the ball brilliantly by playing football high up in the first half. Came out in the second to sit deep and launch the ball.

It's far worse.

We just never look like scoring, it's dreadful. Full marks for effort, though.

Tactics are abysmal, only when the players take matters in to their own hands to do we look threatening.

I've said it a million times. When the initial plan is scrapped, we seem to play our best football.

You not even counting Kev now? Wake up.

We're basically down to ten men with all of the players having to give an extra 10%, it's fucking criminal that he stays on the pitch.

Obi's pissed.

Yes, tbh.

Might just win a bet for the first time in 3 weeks.

I'm not completely dismissing the Villa and Everton games. Just think they tell us little about our prospects for the season.

If we'd got points off our relegation rivals i might be, to some extent.

We played Everton and Villa at exactly the right time. I'm not sure how anyone can look at our first 6 league games and be fully confident of survival.

I still don't have a clue what you were actually disagreeing with in my earlier post. It's common sense, man; either Hughton is scared to drop Nolan or he's daft enough to think he's worth his place in the team. I'd certainly love to hear your alternative.

Owen got plenty of chances on a plate during his last season with us. As Gullit says, his finishing has just gone to s***, he scuffs the ball.

Shola with 68.

Nolan and Colo are our highest rated at the start on mine, both with 77.

That's what he starts at, yes.

God bless Strachan.

What about losing at Goodison and Stamford bridge? I am sure you don't mind that as well... The Chelsea result won't help keep us up.