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starting to become the new NE5 Says you, who only signed up to the forum in the first place to have a go at Allardyce. I'm by no means a fan of the guy, wouldn't want him anywhere near the club in an ideal world. But those saying we'd have got relegated don't really have a leg to stand on, the results and points tally from the first 5 months of the season strongly suggest that we'd have been safe with him.

So do most.

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Sell Harper. Forster had a really good game against Leeds with the exception of a dodgy goal kick, i'd keep him personally.

Why has this even been posted? What absolute tripe.

What was it then, a bad result, an ok result? 2 wins in 14 ignores the 10 games or so before that. We weren't doing well as such but enough for mid-table.

Absolutely nowt in the first part of that season leads me to believe we would have been relegated. As for the part in bold, you've missed my point love.

We had 22 points by the time we were arse raped by Liverpool last season. 4 points less, are you going to argue that wasn't a blueprint for relegation either? As it happens, it wouldn't have been. Then again, who was saying we were genuine candidates for relegation at that point last December. As I said, it took a very special effort from Shearer and the two good old London-Irish lads.

Better than Roeder, certainly!!!!!!

How about 0 wins in 8? Both went through bad runs, neither would have got us relegated.

Keep it coming man.

Kinda like using the fact that we scored a goal in the 87th instead of the 67th as ammunition against Allardyce in the first place?

Ive given you 6 if you keep up. Nearly, keep trying. Only 3 of those came in the last minute though, so all of that research appears to be a waste of your precious time.

No, it was 3. And guess what? You're on average four times more likely to score in the 90th than you are in any other minute of the game. See if you and that incredible intellect can figure out why.

I'm sure you also enjoyed getting beat by Blackburn at home? Drawing with Bolton and Boro? 5-1 against Man U? As much as most of you would like to spin it. You cannot conclusively point to Keegan's results and say he did a better job that season. Asthetically he did, certainly. But that isn't a factor in the question of relegation.

You're an absolute joker man, Allardyce won more points. I can understand that bothering you but there it is.

Three? One at which point were already leading.

Anyone would think we'd struggled to 13 points under Allardyce and Keegan had come in and got 30. We had a poor squad, both managers did OK with it.

We lost those fucking games and still survived, they're completely irrelevant to this arguement.

Alright Wumer. Some people just seem determined to perpetuate this 'poor defence' myth. I'll tell you something, if we didn't have a good defence we'd be no higher than 10th in this league.

Don't see how any of that suggests he's have taken us down tbh, pointless arguement.

Bad defence, poor finishers.

Nobody has said any different. Will he take them down? No chance. Would he have taken us down? Same answer.

Did we beat any top 10 teams under Keegan? Nobody is arguing that Allardyce would have taken us to Europe man.

I hope they go bust.